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ncc1701d
Joined: 08 Aug 2007 Posts: 187 Location: sweden
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| Posted: Mon Jan 14, 2008 1:17 am Post subject: Winching pj's up'n'down |
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I am looking for some way to get the pj up and down from the roof without the need for helping friends.
Was looking at the type of winch used on cars for winching boats and stuff.
But haven't found any that works the way i want. Either there is no "backward" winching on them or they are not
suitable for vertical lifts..
Then there are the rope and pulley stuff which i don't know how to do.
Or a chain thingie used for lifting car engines or heavy objects.. or.. or..
I have no flat roof. it's -- > A shaped.. hmm if you understand what i mean..
I need suggestions...
AND pictures so i understand
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lyd
Joined: 15 Sep 2007 Posts: 390 Location: Lake Mills, Wi
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| Posted: Mon Jan 14, 2008 1:27 am Post subject: Re: Winching pj's up'n'down |
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| ncc1701d wrote: | I am looking for some way to get the pj up and down from the roof without the need for helping friends.
Was looking at the type of winch used on cars for winching boats and stuff.
But haven't found any that works the way i want. Either there is no "backward" winching on them or they are not
suitable for vertical lifts..
Then there are the rope and pulley stuff which i don't know how to do.
Or a chain thingie used for lifting car engines or heavy objects.. or.. or..
I need suggestions...
AND pictures so i understand  |
The roof! Now that's serious.
I used a small boat winch. You don't need it to ratchet backwards. This isn't a 4 ton yacht here, after all. The physics of the thing are such that it is no problem to lower it in a controlled fashion with very little effort. Just don't let go of the handle.
I'll edit a pic of my ridiculous temporary winch setup here in a moment, as soon as I find one.
As promised...
You can get some large versions of these here.
lyd
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nettwerkjohn
Joined: 08 Mar 2006 Posts: 921 Location: Blenheim, Marlborough, New Zealand
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you could also use chain and s-hooks. just be careful if you do, i managed to destroy a mint ECP4500 when a hook slipped...hence the ruby
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Heywood Jablome
Joined: 12 Mar 2006 Posts: 1548
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I've got a boat winch in an adjacent closet... the cable runs above the sheetrock, turns about 110 degrees upward and back (a little) toward the source, and then turns downward to the PJ.
Look on AVS for "aero barco" and you'll see my installation.
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lyd
Joined: 15 Sep 2007 Posts: 390 Location: Lake Mills, Wi
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Oh, I almost forgot, after the pictures above were taken I added a couple of guide pulleys to my Rube Goldberg contraption, which pretty much made it trouble free. Before that you had to horse the lines around a bit as you winched it up, to get them to spool nicely.
It's just two boards clamped into the doorway, no bolts at all except for the ones securing the winch and pulleys to the 2x6.
lyd
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Mark_A_W
Joined: 15 Mar 2006 Posts: 3068 Location: Sunny Melbourne Australia
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I also use a boat winch, mounted in the roof cavity.
Just don't let go of the handle on the way down - there's not much load on it actually, it's not difficult.
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jask
Joined: 17 Mar 2006 Posts: 10187 Location: kamloops BC
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I also used the chain and "s" hook method,with the projector securely strapped to the lifting frame(just in case!)
How high do you need to lift the projector? I am assuming that if you have a peaked or angled ceiling in the room you are going to have some way of mounting it down from the actual ceiling?
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Elaine Benes
Joined: 25 Apr 2006 Posts: 1416
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This is what I use( http://www.handtrucks.com/material-lifts/hand-crank-winch-lifts/geniegl8materiallift.cfm ), but I bought it from ebay for $125...
It's a bigger investment than an inexpensive boat winch, but it has the advantage of being able to move the projector around when its raised. I installed my ancient Marquee 8000 alone several times using it, and just used it on a friends 8500LC. It was especially nice for the 8500LC because we discovered a glycol leak and had to take it down and back up a few times.
Also convenient when leveling the projector, taking it off the mount and returning it was very simple and easy.
Not sure about Sweden, but here you can rent them from just about any Rent-All for $20.-$40. generally. The first one I used I borrowed from a local hotel for nothing...
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ncc1701d
Joined: 08 Aug 2007 Posts: 187 Location: sweden
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Thanks all.
I thought a boatwinch was a bad idea, but as many here use it i will try it out.
but the last one, the "truck" was a little overkill
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ecrabb Forum Moderator
Joined: 13 Mar 2006 Posts: 15909 Location: Utah
TV/Projector: JVC RS40, Epson 5010
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A Genie Lift isn't overkill! It's a super-sweet piece of equipment and handy as hell! I couldn't justify having one just sitting around (too much money even used), but there's really no reason to buy one, unless you're putting up and taking down projectors monthly or something.
If you're in any decent-sized town and have or can borrow a pickup, minivan or SUV, you should be able to rent a Genie Lift for $30 for a couple of hours or $50 or so for all day. Nothing to build, buy, assemble, or otherwise jury-rig. Set the projector on a piece of carpet on wood or something on the forks, hoist it up and bolt in place. It should take longer to go pick up and return the Genie Lift than it would to actually hang the projector.
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Elaine Benes
Joined: 25 Apr 2006 Posts: 1416
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If you know a heating contractor, they might have one you could just borrow too...
They *can* be moved around in a car with fold down rear seats and the use of a bungee cord too, btw...
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jask
Joined: 17 Mar 2006 Posts: 10187 Location: kamloops BC
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If the locoa rental shop does not have one,a lot of people who do office equipment or food service equipment installs use these as well.
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