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250GTE
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| Posted: Wed Jan 09, 2008 3:57 am Post subject: New Old Stock Screens |
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I always find myself checking craigslist, ebay, videogon, ect for a good deal on a replacement electric screen even though I have a perfectly good screen already. Most of the time there is at least one screen that is said to be "New" and never installed. The story alway goes that the install never happened, usually due to running out of money after the screen was already ordered, so now it is for sale new in box.
Is there anything to worry about or watch for when buying an electric/retractable screen that is more then a few years old (maybe even up to 10) years old? Are there rot issues, creases, or anything else that will happen to a screen being rolled up for many years.
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AnalogRocks
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I'd look out for the obvious water damge on the box or signs of mould. I'd wonder if they had used any glue to hold the parts together? It may have gotten dry.
Just general sugestions. I recently got a 80"wide screen for free off of craigs list. It was 5 years old N.I.B. and unrolled perfectly. So the bargains are there.
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250GTE
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| Posted: Wed Jan 09, 2008 5:18 pm Post subject: |
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| AnalogRocks wrote: | I'd look out for the obvious water damge on the box or signs of mould. I'd wonder if they had used any glue to hold the parts together? It may have gotten dry.
Just general sugestions. I recently got a 80"wide screen for free off of craigs list. It was 5 years old N.I.B. and unrolled perfectly. So the bargains are there. |
Thanks for the reply Analog,
That is a good point on glue drying out. That would suck to have the tensioning cord rip off the first time the screen came down.
In general do tab tension screens have a life span? After X number of years have people had issues with screens coming apart due to the glue drying out? I have been looking at Stewart screens (it sounds like the StudioTek 130 is a bit of an upgrade from my Draper M1300) and would hope that Stewart made a product that would stand up over time.
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paw
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Hopefully I'll me able to tell you in a week or 2. I've got a NOS (1992) Stewart Luxus Videomatte 150
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| paw wrote: | | Hopefully I'll me able to tell you in a week or 2. I've got a NOS (1992) Stewart Luxus Videomatte 150 |
You mean you've got one comming?
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| AnalogRocks wrote: | | paw wrote: | | Hopefully I'll me able to tell you in a week or 2. I've got a NOS (1992) Stewart Luxus Videomatte 150 |
You mean you've got one comming? |
No. I already have it.It was a local ebay purchase. I've finally got all the rest of the parts and pieces for the HT. So, I should be hanging the screen. At least temporaily. Then I have to cut a hole in the ceiling, ceiling mount the PJ, build the rack, etc.
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paw
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| 250GTE wrote: | | AnalogRocks wrote: | I'd look out for the obvious water damge on the box or signs of mould. I'd wonder if they had used any glue to hold the parts together? It may have gotten dry.
Just general sugestions. I recently got a 80"wide screen for free off of craigs list. It was 5 years old N.I.B. and unrolled perfectly. So the bargains are there. |
Thanks for the reply Analog,
That is a good point on glue drying out. That would suck to have the tensioning cord rip off the first time the screen came down.
In general do tab tension screens have a life span? After X number of years have people had issues with screens coming apart due to the glue drying out? I have been looking at Stewart screens (it sounds like the StudioTek 130 is a bit of an upgrade from my Draper M1300) and would hope that Stewart made a product that would stand up over time. |
I got the Stewart VideoMatte 150 hung today. It unrolled easily. There's a few tiny ripples in the viewing section. I've heard you need to let a "new" screen hang to get these out. I've had it down a couple hours and they do seem smaller. There are some wavees in the black boarder at the bottom. We'll see if they come out. There was protective paper on the screen and a pad of tissue paper holding the batten in place. I think that's where the edge waves came from. The tabs seem solid. On one side the tension seems a little loose but it seems to be tightening up. The tension appears to be adjustable with a small chain or redoing the knots. The screen is not a pure, bright white as I expected. It's more of a creamy white. It's still close to the WilsonArt Designer White sample I just compared it to. All in all, not bad for a 15 year old NIB screen
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JustGreg
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| 250GTE wrote: | | AnalogRocks wrote: | I'd look out for the obvious water damge on the box or signs of mould. I'd wonder if they had used any glue to hold the parts together? It may have gotten dry.
Just general sugestions. I recently got a 80"wide screen for free off of craigs list. It was 5 years old N.I.B. and unrolled perfectly. So the bargains are there. |
Thanks for the reply Analog,
That is a good point on glue drying out. That would suck to have the tensioning cord rip off the first time the screen came down.
In general do tab tension screens have a life span? After X number of years have people had issues with screens coming apart due to the glue drying out? I have been looking at Stewart screens (it sounds like the StudioTek 130 is a bit of an upgrade from my Draper M1300) and would hope that Stewart made a product that would stand up over time. |
I don't think you'll ever pull it down far enough to pull the screen off the takeup bar. The most you can ask from it is 4:3 and I'm fairly certain that if you set it up right even for 4:3 there'll be 3 or 4 more wraps on the bar.
I have a DaLite manual that has a crease lines in it from the first wound onto the bar. They folded it over and fed it into a slow in the bar and that spot creased every subsequent layer. I tried everything to get rid of it...blow driers, one of those Scunzi (sp?) hand held steamers...nothing worked. So I yanked it down and built a BOC one. I never rolled it up either...hoping the wrinkles would 'fall out' over time. Nope. Mine has something going on at the bottom corners where the black border is also. The images were always a little torqued in those regions even when I tried tensioning it.
Unless you go all caveman on it when you pull it down, I don't think you'll ever break the spring or yank it out of the starting course anchor before you dump it for something else.
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faradayblue
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An ebay seller electroxs was selling several new old stock Stewart Luxus Deluxe Videomatte 200 that are a non standard size that is still good for widescreen. I took my chances and bought a 94.5in x 57in screen. I've finished setting up my new system. The 1.8 gain screen suites my setup well.
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Any evaluation to report yet?
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