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Different lenses ac vs lc and sharpness?

 
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1031



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Posted: Wed Nov 14, 2007 1:29 pm    Post subject: Different lenses ac vs lc and sharpness?

Hello to all. I got hd-145 lenses on my marquee 8500 and i like that sharpness what those lenses gave. I also have "test bench" macine (marquee 8000 chassis ) with 8" lc tubes and hd-10 lenses, those two projectors are in different locations and i havent done really good side by side comparation between those two. It seems that those hd-10 lenses are not sharp as hd-145.s are ( that was noticed just by lookin phospor grain)
So iīm asking how do you rate lc lenses compaired to ac ones? (sharpness)

Is this near right:

hd8->hd10 ?
hd-144/145->gt-17?
or hd-144/145-> hd-10f?

Or is it so that all lc macines doesent give that good "visible phospor grain" that hd-145 give
My 8500 resolves quite good those one pix off/ one pix on patters @1080p50&60hz ( tested with patters that i-scan hd+ give)
Here are shots: http://www.dvdplaza.fi/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=9036&d=1190179080
and here: http://www.dvdplaza.fi/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=9037&d=1190179109
Gonvergense was little off..

Or maybe i just must take that test benc macine to home and start testing Mr. Green

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Posted: Tue Nov 20, 2007 1:10 am    Post subject:

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Or is it so that all lc macines doesent give that good "visible phospor grain" that hd-145 give




Good visible phosphor grain ??? Shocked


The grain you are seeing is probably related to the tube itself (its phosphor coating), the old Mecs 180DVB/DMB used to have this grainy appearance you described.
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Posted: Tue Nov 20, 2007 10:40 am    Post subject:

Yes. I used that "good visible grain" method to compair those lenses and how sharp they are, that if P16ln..(lc tubes) tube has smoother surface than 180 dmb tubes, makes that method useles..
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Posted: Tue Nov 20, 2007 10:54 am    Post subject:

I got your point here. Image focus is variable to some extent, otherwise your crispy tube face is always there, like a costant. An irritating one Confused
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Posted: Tue Nov 20, 2007 11:02 am    Post subject:

Ohhh...

I forgot to mention:

P16s (Lc or not), and P19s have smoother surface (I don't have tons of tubes here but I have noticied it clearly on a population of 20 different Mecs, P16, P19 and 180s) which makes your method close to useless. But, this is my experience, a limited one, others may disagree.

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Posted: Tue Nov 20, 2007 11:56 am    Post subject:

Actually i just looked some tubes that i have here.. P16 is smoother than 180xxx are.
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