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OT: What if I buy on Ebay knowing they don't ship to Canada?
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kal
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Posted: Thu Aug 30, 2007 12:51 am    Post subject: OT: What if I buy on Ebay knowing they don't ship to Canada?

Here's a question for you eBay'ers:

There's a cheap item I want to buy using "BUY IT NOW" from a power seller (6000+ items sold) with 98.9% positive feedback but they don't list Canada as a country they'd ship to.

So I send them a question asking "how much to ship to my address". No response. So I sent it again 2 days later. No response. Likely just because they don't want to bother with Canadians but most people that don't list Canada don't have a problem since it's basically the same price. They just don't think of listing Canada...

So what if I just go AHEAD and buy it and then ask them "how much do I pay you now for the item and shipment?". What are the seller's options? Can they just cancel the whole thing and relist?

The item's this Beer chalkboard: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=280146119906&ssPageName=ADME:B:WNA:US:12


I'm putting together a kegging system in my bar (4 good taps with 8 kegs in the backroom in a temp controlled freezer) and want this to go above the taps to list what's "on tap". Nice beer signs with a perfect size ilike this are somewhat hard to find! This one's perfect for me!

Kal

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Posted: Thu Aug 30, 2007 1:00 am    Post subject:

pm sent. I want a free beer.

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Posted: Thu Aug 30, 2007 1:04 am    Post subject:

Go ahead kal...at most he wont sell it to you, just do the buy it now and put in your postal code to figure shipping....at least thats what I would do and I'm 550 positive on fleabay
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Posted: Thu Aug 30, 2007 1:06 am    Post subject:

Just a couple of observations:

1) It IS more expensive to ship to Canada via US Post Office - I've never looked into anything else. But it doesn't matter that much, since the buyer pays shipping. The ground shippers (FedEx, DSL, etc) may be different.

1A) You can't get a "Delivery Confirmation" with USPS, which is a liability for the seller since he/she has no way to verify delivery. The ground shippers may be different.

2) The seller does have to fill out a custom's form - not that big of a deal for me, but maybe for others.

Just my 2 cents

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Posted: Thu Aug 30, 2007 1:10 am    Post subject:

Yes Kal, they can cancel and re-list the item without getting charged additional listing fees. I guess the "danger" would be that he could give you a bad feedback rating if he is grumpy or something. But he would still have to ship it if that were the case.
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Posted: Thu Aug 30, 2007 1:30 am    Post subject:

If they accept your bid, but don't want to send across the border, I'll give you my US address and they can ship it there.
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Posted: Thu Aug 30, 2007 1:34 am    Post subject:

Another option if they really don't want to deal with the additional shipping hassle - just print the tag yourself using paypal, save it as a pdf and email it to them. There's no reason not to ship to Canada... Indonesia, maybe, but for a fine upstanding maple-leafer - there's no reason not to.

Now to the beer... 8 KEGS?! Sheesh. I've got some serious catching up to do (as usual)!

So that's
Molson
Labatt's
Molson Golden
Labatt's Blue...

That leaves 4 whole kegs for Miller Products Very Happy !

We've got a guy from our Toronto office at work coming down this weekend - loves to raz the Wisconsinites about their undying allegiance to Miller. Hey - you've gotta back the best!
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Posted: Thu Aug 30, 2007 2:37 am    Post subject:

wkomassa wrote:
Another option if they really don't want to deal with the additional shipping hassle - just print the tag yourself using paypal, save it as a pdf and email it to them. There's no reason not to ship to Canada... Indonesia, maybe, but for a fine upstanding maple-leafer - there's no reason not to.

Now to the beer... 8 KEGS?! Sheesh. I've got some serious catching up to do (as usual)!

So that's
Molson
Labatt's
Molson Golden
Labatt's Blue...

That leaves 4 whole kegs for Miller Products Very Happy !

We've got a guy from our Toronto office at work coming down this weekend - loves to raz the Wisconsinites about their undying allegiance to Miller. Hey - you've gotta back the best!

Bah, those are not good beers. we pour that stuff on cereal in the morning.
We brew our own. Puts hair on your chest, and most everything else too.

The thing I want to know is, If you drink so damn much beer Kal, where is your beer gut????
You must be giving it to guests. I'll be right over. Wink
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Posted: Thu Aug 30, 2007 3:08 am    Post subject:

He probably doesn't answer your question because it's already covered in the auction. He list the US, but nowhere else. That's really pretty clear.

If your paying with PayPal, he'll most likely insist on shipping to you PayPal verified address only. Since that's not Curt's US address, that presents another problem.

I won't ship outside the US, but I sometimes ship to an alternate US address like Curt suggested. I think you should ask him about that.

Don't bid on it without getting approval first. That's a good way to get negative feedback.
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Posted: Thu Aug 30, 2007 3:54 am    Post subject:

I always ask if people are willing to ship to a Canadian address. I use a postal money order to pay them cashable at their local post office and ask them to ship US PS air mail. It's the least expensive way. No tracking number though so you have to cross your fingers.

In 7 years or so on ebay only 1 piece never showed and that was lost by UPS.

If you ship it to Curt's US address let them ship however they usually ship. I ship to a friends address in the US like that too and clear customs myself.

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Posted: Thu Aug 30, 2007 4:25 am    Post subject:

I have found that when they will not even e-mail you back it usually is not worth the trouble!!
often they have the account defaulted to only accept u.s. bids and if you change your address in your profile you end up with an unconfirmed mailing address. If you can bid- use another forum member as a drop, or use a commercial mail drop, thats what I like to do!! I also have a "mail to" address in Wa. state, if all else fails let me know and I will see what I can do when I go pick up my new (to me ) pre-amp
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Posted: Thu Aug 30, 2007 5:16 am    Post subject:

You should try Coopers Pale Ale, not only the best commercial beer made it is also the best home brew and the home brew wort is the same that they use for the commercial beer, Coopers are the biggest supplier of home brew ingredients in Australia.

http://www.coopers.com.au/

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Posted: Thu Aug 30, 2007 5:28 am    Post subject:

Thanks for the ideas and offers guys!

Barry's got the right idea: It's all homemade beer. The 4 tapes will likely hold (for now): An average 'lager' beer, a german Hefeweizen (wheat), a british ESB/IPA (bitter), and a cream ale.

I'm sick of cleaning bottles. Time to start using kegs so I've been doing a lot of reading on this and what's what. Why room for 8 kegs? I want to have at least a couple of others 'lagering'. (Lagers need to sit at just above freezing for a few months to develop that 'clean' taste before drinking).


Beer gut? Working on it... Smile Always happy to work on guest guts too... Smile I've got a pile of equipment on its way to me now... most of it should be here next week then I get busy.


Curt Palme wrote:
If they accept your bid, but don't want to send across the border, I'll give you my US address and they can ship it there.


Ok! Thanks Curt! I'll buy it and see what they say...

UPDATE: Upon purchasing, the payment details page had the following payment instructions by the seller:

Payment Instructions
All sales are Final. No return or exchanges. All products are checked before shipping with extra packing. Payment must be received within (5) days. Please do not bid if you do not intend to pay. Bidding is a legally binding contract. Non-paying bidders will be reported to ebay and a negative feeback will be left. Please feel free to e-mail me with any questions or concerns with this product. Shipping to Canada will be charged additional $20.00.


So sounds like I'm covered! (A bit of a markup for shipping as it goes from $16 to $36 but what the hell....been watching for a week now for nice signs and this is the only nice sign that'll fit)

Kal

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Posted: Thu Aug 30, 2007 6:25 am    Post subject:

remember to have him ship it usps not courier or you will get raped for "brokerage" fees, if they insist on courier you can find a standard customs declaration form and fax it to him to attach in triplicate to the outside of the box...just use USPS Very Happy

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I just saw some Cornelius kegs ( 5 gallon soda) the other day that were fitted with Sankey couplings VERY nice.
All my small kegs are old pin lock(Coke), and I only bottle for mead,cider or barley wine.I am thinking of putting all of this years cider in a keg Very Happy ... cause I hate bottling
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Posted: Thu Aug 30, 2007 11:52 am    Post subject:

I no longer waste my time with Ebay sellers who won't ship to Canada. There's always a litany of self-rationalizing reasons and I'm sick of listening to them.

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Posted: Thu Aug 30, 2007 11:56 am    Post subject:

wkomassa wrote:
Another option if they really don't want to deal with the additional shipping hassle - just print the tag yourself using paypal, save it as a pdf and email it to them. There's no reason not to ship to Canada... Indonesia, maybe, but for a fine upstanding maple-leafer - there's no reason not to.

Now to the beer... 8 KEGS?! Sheesh. I've got some serious catching up to do (as usual)!

So that's
Molson
Labatt's
Molson Golden
Labatt's Blue...

That leaves 4 whole kegs for Miller Products Very Happy !

We've got a guy from our Toronto office at work coming down this weekend - loves to raz the Wisconsinites about their undying allegiance to Miller. Hey - you've gotta back the best!



Don't forget the Cold Kokanees! Very Happy
http://www.kokaneebeer.com/

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Posted: Thu Aug 30, 2007 12:02 pm    Post subject:

Off topic note on Canada - I was reading a youth atlas with my 5 year old the other day and found these facts out about Canada. That the population of California is about the same as Canada and that 70% of Canadians live within 100 miles of the US border
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Posted: Thu Aug 30, 2007 12:56 pm    Post subject:

jask wrote:
remember to have him ship it usps not courier or you will get raped for "brokerage" fees, if they insist on courier you can find a standard customs declaration form and fax it to him to attach in triplicate to the outside of the box...just use USPS Very Happy

Yep. Sometimes unavoidable but I always try and use USPS. Though for expensive things where I'm paying hundreds and hundreds I don't mind paying $50 in useless broker fees just to get faster courier service with tracking.

jask wrote:
p.s.
I just saw some Cornelius kegs ( 5 gallon soda) the other day that were fitted with Sankey couplings VERY nice.
All my small kegs are old pin lock(Coke), and I only bottle for mead,cider or barley wine.I am thinking of putting all of this years cider in a keg Very Happy ... cause I hate bottling

I hate bottling too - hence the reason to move to Corny kegs! Mine are ball lock. I thing I can do pretty easily in the future is put on some quick disconnects so that I can switch at least one of the taps between homebrew and store-bought kegs with Sankey couplings. The beer store has a bunch of commercial beers available in 20L kegs that would fit perfectly. Newcastle Brown Ale, Hoegaarden, Caffrey’s Irish Ale all on tap. Yum. Smile

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Posted: Thu Aug 30, 2007 1:08 pm    Post subject:

Here's another US/Canada fact. Calgary has the largest population of Americans outside of the USA.
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Posted: Thu Aug 30, 2007 1:32 pm    Post subject:

Glad it worked out. Sometimes you have to take a risk; Ottawas you'll never accomplish anything.

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