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| Posted: Wed Aug 15, 2007 11:10 pm Post subject: Hunt for Red October next month? |
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So, what could the pro's and con's of this coming out on HD DVD and Blu-ray?
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| Posted: Thu Aug 16, 2007 1:36 am Post subject: |
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Can't wait for this one myself! One of my fav's.
Cons? What cons?
The only "conns" I know about are from the script:
Seaman Jones: Conn, sonar! Crazy Ivan!
Capt. Bart Mancuso: Conn, aye. All right, Ryan, we just unzipped our fly. Mr. Thompson! Open the outer doors, firing point procedures. Now if that bastard so much as twitches, I'm going to blow him straight to Mars.
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| Posted: Thu Aug 16, 2007 6:38 am Post subject: |
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Hpoe it's better than the origional DVD with that great MPEG1 look. 
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Sounds political. 
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| WanMan wrote: | | Sounds political. |
It may have been but the Political officer sliped on his tea and broke his neck.
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Did this come out yet, and if it did has anyone gotten and viewed it?
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It's out. Mine's on its way to me right now from Amazon for dirt cheap:
The Hunt for Red October (Paramount)
Should have it this week. Can't wait... it's one of my fav's!
4/5 stars for both audio and video:
| Quote: | The Video: Sizing Up the Picture
Ever since a packaging snafu led to Paramount's controversial cancellation of the 'Jack Ryan Collection' HD DVD in 2007, fans have been anxiously waiting for 'The Hunt for Red October' to be released in high definition. Well, rest easy, dear readers... the series opener is finally making its high-def debut with a faithful 1080p/AVC-encoded transfer that will please fans and purists alike. While the eighteen year old film is starting to show its age (the print is occasionally tainted by relatively negligible specks, scratches, and blemishes), Paramount has stabilized the picture and created an eye-pleasing three-dimensional image that makes the disc’s arrival seem worth the wait.
The picture boasts strong colors, bold primaries (particularly during the various submarine encounters), solid blacks, and comfortable contrast leveling. In spite of the various palette-taxing lighting schemes employed throughout the film, skintones remain natural and detail rarely slips. Fine textures are quite impressive, facial pores and stubble are crisp, and the Dallas and Red October command centers benefit exponentially from such increased clarity. Only a handful of shots seem softer than the rest, creating a consistent and reliable picture from beginning to end. Best of all, I didn’t catch any significant artifacting, problematic noise, or heavy DNR (if any). Edge enhancement makes a few noticeable appearances -- particularly when either sub surfaces -- but it isn't detrimental and will only bother those with larger projection screens.
To top it all off, a quick comparison to the standard definition release reveals a monumental improvement in almost every area -- the BD’s occasionally ruthless delineation is the only aspect of this new release that doesn’t utterly trounce the DVD. While grain-haters will probably disagree, the end result is sharp, clean, and precise, offering what I assume is a faithful approximation of the film’s theatrical presentation. It may not be perfect, but ‘The Hunt for Red October’s video transfer will give fans a disc to get excited about.
The Audio: Rating the Sound
’The Hunt for Red October’ sounds as good as it looks. Paramount has produced a Dolby TrueHD 5.1 surround track that outperforms the DVD’s standard audio mix, crafts an immersive soundfield, and allows fans to hear the film the way it was meant to be heard. Directionality is surprisingly proficient, underwater and interior pans are silky smooth, and dialogue is crisp and well prioritized (minus a half-dozen whispers that slip through the cracks). The rear speakers don’t make a direct assault on the listener per se, but do a fine job supporting every scene with subtle, acoustic aggression that allows ambient effects, explosive impacts, and quiet exchanges to register as convincing and realistic. The track’s proficient dynamics also make a memorable impression. Basil Poledouris’ extraordinary music is reborn in this lossless mix with powerful bass tones, a healthy chorus of unwavering voices, and plenty of steady, high-end instrumentation.
My lone complaint is that the LFE channel doesn’t dig as deep as I’d prefer during the submarine engagements -- sure, a decent spread of low-end pulses have been competently replicated throughout the film, but I longed for the sort of disquieting gut-punches delivered by the best lossless tracks on the market. Still, such a nitpick is hardly a point of serious contention. ‘The Hunt for Red October’ sounds as good as I hoped and left me with little choice but to shove my standard DVD down the garbage disposal. |
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| Posted: Wed Aug 06, 2008 8:51 pm Post subject: |
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Red October looks pretty good but it has a decent amount DNR added which removes lots of the film grain and ultimately detail
-Gary
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| Posted: Wed Aug 06, 2008 8:57 pm Post subject: |
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DNR. I hate any excessive use of DNR. Seems to be the current 'issue' with recent crops of blu-rays. Patton is an even worse example. it looks TOO clean.
Idiot consumers complain about "noise" in the picture (ie: grain) so idiot studios bow to idiot consumers and remove grain completely which also removes some of the finer details. GRAIN IS AN INHERENT TRAIT OF FILM! LEAVE IT ALONE! Did I mention they're all idiots? 
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So, the impression is to make it for the masses and not for the those looking for the best quality based on original compilation attempt. So, did they add EE also? 
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| kal wrote: | DNR. I hate any excessive use of DNR. Seems to be the current 'issue' with recent crops of blu-rays. Patton is an even worse example. it looks TOO clean.
Idiot consumers complain about "noise" in the picture (ie: grain) so idiot studios bow to idiot consumers and remove grain completely which also removes some of the finer details. GRAIN IS AN INHERENT TRAIT OF FILM! LEAVE IT ALONE! Did I mention they're all idiots?
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Mmmmmm film grain 
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I want what was intended by the movie maker, not the DVD maker, not the Blu-ray maker. If the movie maker wanted film grain, I want it, too. BTW, my early days in photography (c.1985-6) was strongly focused on b&w with strong contrast and highlighting the details in subject scenes with strong directional light. I called this itchy photography. I'm guessing this is difficult in the digital age.
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