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getting HDMI capability and gamma

 
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zaphod



Joined: 16 Jun 2006
Posts: 2002
Location: Cloverdale

Posted: Fri Aug 10, 2007 4:28 pm    Post subject: getting HDMI capability and gamma

hi,

i need gamma adjustment (now-ish) and will be getting an hdmi source by the end of the year. also rolled into that roadmap is digital TV of some sort but that is further down the road as my "TV" is an old sony 27" 4:3.

finally, i need to continue support of my old Laserdiscs and VHS for those movies that just aren't on other sources. the scaler makes them bearable IMHO. i run them at 1280x1024@72 (also what i currently run my DVDs at).

the two options seem to be either Moome's extHD with gamma or an HDFury/RTC-2200 combo. the later has the edge as it available now, has had rave reviews and lets me get gamma now until i decide on the hdmi source in 5 months.

if i use moome's extHD, i'll hook it up like this:



but i have two options for using the HDFury. the first uses the extron to scale down the image to 1280x1024@72 before it hits the projector. this means that the PJ always sees the same input and i'll only have one memory location on which to maintain focus/convergence/etc.



but the extron has a VGA passthrough input that would allow me to pass the HD all the way to the PJ. the upside is input to the PJ that is more pure but the downside is i'll have two memory locations to tweek/adjust chase.



am i missing anything here? does the moome gamma circuit affect both the component and the HDMI input? is scaling the HDfury output down going to kill any advantage of the HDMI output? i doubt that the XG852 will handle 1080p - heck i don't even like 1600x1200@60 on the XG852 (too much judder for me). should i wait for moome and do HDMI and gamma together? or should i get my gamma now with the RTC-2200.

i know that moome is creating an HDMI card for the XG, but that is months away and while it will have gamma, i still won't have gamma on the other sources (they need them too Smile, and i really can't run an HDMI cable to the PJ since the great ceiling drywalling of 2006...


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Stonefool



Joined: 24 Dec 2006
Posts: 253
Location: Sweden

Posted: Fri Aug 10, 2007 11:43 pm    Post subject:

A Lumagen videoprocessor. Don't know if the absolute oldest ones support gamma, but most seems to do since a few years back. DVDO ISCAN, blah blah blah, don't, unless you get the newest Anchorbay's VP* ones, they do gamma. (But make sure you have as much range in the gamma controll as you cans ,ome don't offer that much.)
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zaphod



Joined: 16 Jun 2006
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Location: Cloverdale

Posted: Mon Aug 13, 2007 7:37 pm    Post subject:

Stonefool wrote:
A Lumagen videoprocessor. Don't know if the absolute oldest ones support gamma, but most seems to do since a few years back. DVDO ISCAN, blah blah blah, don't, unless you get the newest Anchorbay's VP* ones, they do gamma. (But make sure you have as much range in the gamma controll as you cans ,ome don't offer that much.)


thanks. i've looked at the lumagen stuff, but i have to admit that i really am an extron fan. wish that they did some gamma, but for some reason they just don't/won't/can't
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mike calcott



Joined: 18 May 2006
Posts: 307
Location: Australia

Posted: Thu Aug 23, 2007 12:39 am    Post subject: hdmi gamma adjustment

The old Taw Rock processors have gamma adjustment which I have have used with good result
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Stonefool



Joined: 24 Dec 2006
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Location: Sweden

Posted: Fri Aug 24, 2007 11:36 pm    Post subject:

Zaphod,

Why do you run your VCR and LD at 1280x1024 resolution?

I can of course understand the gamma need, but how would, at least, the LD picture be if you got an LD player that had component output (didn't some VCR player have component output too?), instead of running through svideo?

(From my current dvd players component output is brighter than svideo output, so "less need" for gamma.)

(Extron doesn't seem to exist in this country, so it's Extron what?)

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Person99



Joined: 09 Mar 2006
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Posted: Wed Jan 02, 2008 4:08 pm    Post subject:

Stonefool wrote:
the LD picture be if you got an LD player that had component output (didn't some VCR player have component output too?), instead of running through svideo?


What LD player has component? LD was dead by the time component got its legs. Smile

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Brian_AnnArbor



Joined: 18 Apr 2006
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Posted: Thu Jan 03, 2008 7:23 pm    Post subject:

There were some of the LD players that also played DVDs, I do not remember if any of them could use the component outputs for LD and DVD, I think most it was for DVD only.
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zaphod



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Posted: Thu Jan 03, 2008 7:53 pm    Post subject:

nope, not even the pioneer last generation of players had component outputs, S-video was the tops of the day. check out http://www.laserdiscarchive.co.uk for info on various players.
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