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Barco Data 808s phase adjustment problem
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T08066



Joined: 07 Jan 2015
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Location: Germany

Posted: Tue Jun 09, 2015 5:07 pm    Post subject: Barco Data 808s phase adjustment problem

Hi there,

I have a problem with my Barco Data 808s. It's connected via 5BNC with a HD Fury 2 and is getting 1080i input. The picture is shifted horizontally to the right and about 30% of the image is invisible due to this.

I've played around with:
- Input Source # and connection
- h and v shift
- measured the smps 17V and adjusted the G2 too. No red LED turned on in my PJ.

I do really appreciate your help!

Cheers, Tobi
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gregstv



Joined: 27 Aug 2007
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Posted: Tue Jun 09, 2015 8:42 pm    Post subject:

Check the blanking and the phase.
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T08066



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Posted: Tue Jun 09, 2015 8:47 pm    Post subject:

The blanking is completely off. Moving the raster is working, but doesn't solve the issue. Changing the horizontal phase still has no effect.
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gregstv



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Posted: Tue Jun 09, 2015 8:59 pm    Post subject:

Did it just go like this? Or are you installing it?
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T08066



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Posted: Tue Jun 09, 2015 10:09 pm    Post subject:

The problem is still there. I'm installing the set. Every signal is cut on the right side, PC-VGA to RGBHV too (800x600, 720p, 1080i, 1200x900 tested). The internal pattern is centered perfectly, but h-phase does not have any effect. Is there a connection or cable that controls the adjustment of the h-phase?
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Curt Palme
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Posted: Tue Jun 09, 2015 11:27 pm    Post subject:

This is a Fury/signal issue, not an issue within the projector. We had some of these issues with some Furys back when the site was doing tech support, but I haven't heard of this in about 5 years. Are you using the power supply with the Fury?
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winny



Joined: 09 Oct 2013
Posts: 403
Location: Sweden

TV/Projector: BD808s, BG1209/2

Posted: Wed Jun 10, 2015 8:04 am    Post subject:

Same BD808s, HDFury 1, same problem. Worked around it by lowering the resolution and moving the active picture area with XBMC and compensated by moving and stretching the image on the projector.

Upgraded to an VP50.

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gregstv



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Posted: Wed Jun 10, 2015 9:02 am    Post subject:

Do you have a video processor? if so check the settings
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winny



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TV/Projector: BD808s, BG1209/2

Posted: Wed Jun 10, 2015 11:00 am    Post subject:

Do you mean from his source -> hdmi -> video processor -> hdmi -> hdfury2 -> BD808s?
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gregstv



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Posted: Wed Jun 10, 2015 11:40 am    Post subject:

yes, check the settings. maybe do a factory reset on the video processor
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winny



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Posted: Wed Jun 10, 2015 12:17 pm    Post subject:

Assuming he does have a video processor in the chain.
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T08066



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Posted: Wed Jun 10, 2015 3:18 pm    Post subject:

I am using the fury with a power supply. The issue is independent from the fury.
My routings:
1) PS3 (480p, 720p, 1080i, 1080p) -> HD Fury II -> VGA to 5BNC cable-> 808s
2) Lenovo Laptop VGA out (800x600 up to 1600x900) -> VGA to 5BNC cable -> 808s

The error is independent from the source, every adjustment has an effect on my image except the h-phase shift that controls if the image is shiftet to the left / right side.

Do you still have any ideas what I could do? Can a video processor shift the h-phase?
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winny



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TV/Projector: BD808s, BG1209/2

Posted: Wed Jun 10, 2015 3:26 pm    Post subject:

PowerStrip?
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T08066



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Posted: Wed Jun 10, 2015 4:08 pm    Post subject:

Can you please explain how I can adjust this? I can't find a PowerStrip adjustment.
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Bodi79



Joined: 08 Oct 2011
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Posted: Wed Jun 10, 2015 6:33 pm    Post subject:

@T08066

winny suggested u try Powerstrip on the PC.

Itīs a good alternative if you donīt have an video processor at your disposal.
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T08066



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Posted: Wed Jun 10, 2015 10:40 pm    Post subject:

I'll try PowerStrip. Connected my old Play Station 1 via S-Video. Same Problem here, i can move and stretch the picture but there's still the same problem. Can I solve this by using a scaler like the VP30?
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gregstv



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Posted: Thu Jun 11, 2015 2:04 am    Post subject:

Have you deleted all blocks and done a full install?
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T08066



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Posted: Thu Jun 11, 2015 8:24 pm    Post subject:

@winny: Thank you, had a first success with PowerStrip. (@1080i60) Now this is my working result. Can I convert my input signal to match this configuration?


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winny



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TV/Projector: BD808s, BG1209/2

Posted: Fri Jun 12, 2015 8:00 am    Post subject:

T08066 wrote:
@winny: Thank you, had a first success with PowerStrip. (@1080i60) Now this is my working result. Can I convert my input signal to match this configuration?


'97 PowerStrip for the win once more! Very Happy

Sure thing, with a decent scaler like the VP30 you suggested earlier.

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winny



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Posted: Fri Jun 12, 2015 10:50 am    Post subject:

Oh! I've missed this CRT goodie part! "an anti-burn-in orbiting option"
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