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jordanius
Joined: 12 Feb 2013 Posts: 15 Location: Melbourne, Australia.
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| Posted: Sun Feb 08, 2015 9:07 am Post subject: G70 Non standard install angle |
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Hey guys,
I have a 160" 16:9 screen I am trying to use with a G70 in a room with limited space. In an effort to fill the horizontal width I have elevated the rear of the projector. It works but it seems the focus is out of whack. I know all the install guides stress the unit must be dead flat and perpendicular to the screen but that is not an option in the room unless I sacrifice screen real estate..
Could someone please tell me if there's a combination of scheimpflug/spacer/mechanical adjustments etc that will allow a CRT to work at a non standard angle ?
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huggy
Joined: 02 Aug 2008 Posts: 927 Location: Melbourne,Australia
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Elevating the rear of a CRT projector is probably the ideal situation as your keystone will at a minimum, I assume you have it table mounted correct?
Whereabouts in Melbourne are you?
Dave
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Curt Palme CRT Tech
Joined: 08 Mar 2006 Posts: 24396 Location: Langley, BC
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It should dial in just fine, no spacers needed. Follow the manual, it's well written, and Sony Scheimpflug is easy to adjust.
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jeffslife
Joined: 17 Apr 2010 Posts: 4190 Location: ohio usa
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| Posted: Sun Feb 08, 2015 4:24 pm Post subject: |
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160 inch screen with a G70 ? As much as I loved my G70 I wouldn't go over 110 inch, its gotta be dim at that size,maybe with 2 and that's iffy But one ? Good luck though.
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huggy
Joined: 02 Aug 2008 Posts: 927 Location: Melbourne,Australia
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I have 2 909's stacked on a 160 inch screen, my screen has 2 gain and i can tell you its just bright enough. When i switch one of the pjs off, its way too dim, unwatchable actually. So unless you have a really high gain screen im not sure how you're going to pull that off.
Dave
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jordanius
Joined: 12 Feb 2013 Posts: 15 Location: Melbourne, Australia.
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Hey guys, Thanks all for the replies.
It's floor mounted as I only have 2700mm ceilings. Are you a CRT tech Dave as I would consider paying for someone to help me get the set up right(It's installed near Inverloch). I know the guides say don't go that big but the brightness is actually a lot better than I was expecting. Very watchable with a bit of gamma boost.
The poor focus has me stumped. I previously ran it on a 4:3 80" screen and could see scan lines at ~1400x960p. With the bigger screen the unit is set back another 1-1.5 metres but the sharpness has declined drastically. The dots on the H pattern are barely visible. I have redone the electronic and mechanical adjustments but it still feels sub optimal. Would increasing the resolution to 1920 x 960 be impacting the sharpness ?
Also wondering to fill the tube face is it better to push the zone to the edge of the phosphor then extend to match the zone via the RGB controls or should I keep the zone smaller and extend the RGB over the edge of the zone ?
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Curt Palme CRT Tech
Joined: 08 Mar 2006 Posts: 24396 Location: Langley, BC
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| huggy wrote: | I have 2 909's stacked on a 160 inch screen, my screen has 2 gain and i can tell you its just bright enough. When i switch one of the pjs off, its way too dim, unwatchable actually. So unless you have a really high gain screen im not sure how you're going to pull that off.
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CasetheCorvetteman
Joined: 09 Nov 2008 Posts: 6326 Location: Australia
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You want to lower the rear to reduce keystone if it is ceiling mounted, but id have to guess youve got it on the floor or a table. If youre on a table, you may as well get it to zero degrees by rasing the back til the lenses are aimed dead center, it will quite likely show you how to do that in the manual in the rear projection part.
Thats a lot of screen for that machine...
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huggy
Joined: 02 Aug 2008 Posts: 927 Location: Melbourne,Australia
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| jordanius wrote: | Hey guys, Thanks all for the replies.
Are you a CRT tech Dave as I would consider paying for someone to help me get the set up right(It's installed near Inverloch). |
Nah mate, I have no idea what I'm doing lol
I'm just a goose who's not afraid to get his beak wet
Dave
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huggy
Joined: 02 Aug 2008 Posts: 927 Location: Melbourne,Australia
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| Curt Palme wrote: | | huggy wrote: | I have 2 909's stacked on a 160 inch screen, my screen has 2 gain and i can tell you its just bright enough. When i switch one of the pjs off, its way too dim, unwatchable actually. So unless you have a really high gain screen im not sure how you're going to pull that off.
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draganm
Joined: 08 Mar 2006 Posts: 8990 Location: Colorado
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| jordanius wrote: | | It's floor mounted as I only have 2700mm ceilings. | "only 9 foot ceiling"? That's a pretty tall ceiling, typically CRT's are mounted to 8 foot ceilings in basements and the first row of seats sit directly under the machine.
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Nashou66
Joined: 12 Jan 2007 Posts: 16171 Location: West Seneca NY
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AFryia
Joined: 09 Mar 2006 Posts: 965 Location: S.E. Michigan VPH-G70Q
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| jordanius wrote: | | Also wondering to fill the tube face is it better to push the zone to the edge of the phosphor then extend to match the zone via the RGB controls or should I keep the zone smaller and extend the RGB over the edge of the zone ? | IMO set internal Raster/Pattens to the very near edge and keep the image within that. Final Registration and Convergence with an external pattern via your source.
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