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[ElTopo]

Hi all,

could you post your brightness/contrast setting from your Barcos ?

Wanna compare. I know it depends on calibration and so on but i would be interested.

I had 50/80 on my BR909.

thx
ElTopo

[CasetheCorvetteman]

Depends on the source too. Ive got 10 different sources and they're all different contrast and brightness on my CineMAX.

[CasetheCorvetteman]

Depends on the source too. Ive got 10 different sources and they're all different contrast and brightness on my CineMAX.

[CasetheCorvetteman]

Depends on the source too. Ive got 10 different sources and they're all different contrast and brightness on my CineMAX.

[opv]

[ElTopo]

If you have a Lumagen you have one output for all your sources and in the end one contrast/brightness setting.

50/80 was with brand new tubes on a 2,35m screen in width.

[CasetheCorvetteman]

You cant calibrate game consoles. They put out whatever they were designed to.

[opv]

[CasetheCorvetteman]

Ofcourse not. You put in the cart, flick the switch and play!!

[ElTopo]

And thats the advantage of one output.

Once calibrated it's done for all sources.

Some more Barco users out there sharing their settings ?

[CasetheCorvetteman]

No, that is not the advantage of one output. Why would i want to run every source into a scaler so it can butcher the image quality when i can connect it straight to the RGB input on the projector and use it? I use a computer for this very reason too.

Discussing contrast and brightness settings between various models of projectors in totally different environments and levels of wear is somewhat pointless, youve given no info on what youve adjusted prior to the projector, there is no indication as to drive mode setting, no indication of white and black balance settings, no info on screen type or size, no info about your room or its lighting conditions, and no info about your tube type or condition.

Without all that info, sharing contrast and brightness settings is only asking 1/10th of a question.

[opv]

Case,
Do you really belive a good VP well configured, butchers the image quality ?
From my experience, a good VP gives a boost to CRT image quality.

[CasetheCorvetteman]

I believe that a game console or arcade PCB looks its best at their original resolution, which alot of video processors probably wont handle, and why put it through one to get the same res out the other side? In retro gaming, upscaling of ANY sort is butchering in every sense of the word.

There are some people that line double arcade PCBs and retro consoles only to have their upscaler add scanlines to the image... What the f*** for?

Anyway, none of that has anything to do with the original question here.

[ElTopo]

Thanks opv for your input.

I don't think its a good idea to put 480p/i or 576p/i into a Cine9 as it looks crappy.

Much better to upscale those resolutions at least to 720p or even better 1080p.

Anyway the Cine 9 was made for movies not for console games

[CasetheCorvetteman]

480i and 576i are 4:3 formats where as 1080p and 720p are 16:9 so you cant 1:1 rescale them anyway, but irrelevant as that is to my statement, it is not the resolution used by any arcade PCB ive ever seen.

If i was going to rescale 240p ( which is what most retro games are in ) i wouldnt be going to a resolution like 1920x1080, neither number is a multiple of the original, and the aspect ratio is incorrect. I might use 480p at 60Hz or 480i at 120Hz, i might even use 960i/p, but with the scanlines filled in, the jaggy low res graphics dont look near as good as they do before the molestation of video processing takes place.

Its all my opinion, youre entitled to yours, its quite obvious it differs from mine in that i see not everything is meant to be viewed in 16:9 or upscaled to so called full HD to look good.

Back to contrast and brightness, there are about 12 other settings within the projector that will affect contrast and brightness settings, not withstanding everything else i posted above.

[stridsvognen]

Not that i ever had a Barco, but dont adjusting contrast and brightness push around your gamma curves, so your grayscale gets messed up, ?

About the VP, then most of them can input/output any format you like, so input 4:3 and output 4:3, set the timings to a 4:3 format, and then its possible to calibrate the output to the right video level., to match the projector.

If i output 1080P horisontal lines on my marquee, and fill up the tube face, 4:3 format i get anoying scanlines on the screen.

So i guess you will need higher resolution on a cine9 to make it ok to look at.?

I think that any good VP will improve the PQ on any CRT, if used right.

[ElTopo]

In have the CineMax logo on my case but the Identification on the screen states Cine 9.

720p is the lowest resolution (my opinion) which is watchable on the Cine9. On lower ones or with 1080i you can see scanlines everywhere. And that's the cause why a VP is important....

[stridsvognen]

[ElTopo]

Oppo 93 --> Receiver --> Lumagen XS --> Moome --> Cine9

Lumagen is also my CMS.

[CasetheCorvetteman]