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| Posted: Sun Oct 21, 2012 9:59 pm Post subject: Prometheus 3D [Blu-ray] |
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Another reference disc!
Prometheus (Blu-ray 3D/ Blu-ray/ DVD/ Digital Copy) (2012)
(Hover over link for price, click to purchase and support our forum at no extra cost to you)
| Quote: | Here it is, folks – my new favorite demo disc. The four-disc 3D Blu-ray release of 'Prometheus' never stops wowing. Watching the film itself is a journey that I wish I could take again for the first time. Upon reflection and analysis (with the help of these hearty special features), it only gets better. Sure, there are those who loath 'Prometheus' – and I've carried on extensive debate-like conversations defending the arguments – but I stand by my opinion that this is one of the very best contemporary science fiction films, a more-than-worthy chapter in the 'Alien'-verse. Although it's not adored by everyone and didn't warrant the greatest box office response, Fox has given it a huge release that's comparable to that of the extended edition of 'Avatar,' the only difference being that 'Avatar' recycled clips and interviews between it's several discs of special features and 'Prometheus' doesn't. The 3D video and audio qualities are perfect, not a single flaw to be found. Both offer environmental enhancements that take you deeper into the world of the film than you can imagine. Do not settle for anything less than this four-disc set. Even if you have a Blu-ray player but not a 3D television, shell out the extra $5 for the four-disc set. You pay for what you get and this is definitely worth it.
The Video: Sizing Up the Picture
If you've followed my theatrical reviews, you know that I'm not a fan of theatrical 3D – which is why it really meant something when I not only highly recommended seeing 'Prometheus' in 3D on the big screen, but went back to see it embiggened on the IMAX screen. Between theatrical and Blu-ray review screenings, I rarely have time for recreational theatrical outings, but I made time to see 'Prometheus' on IMAX. Just as I recommended seeing it on 3D screens, I highly recommend the 3D Blu-ray. The 1080p/MPEG-4 MVC transfer is absolutely perfect.
The 3D look of 'Prometheus' is astounding. My first experience with the latest and greatest polarized 3D was 'Monster House.' I remember sitting there with my jaw agape because, unlike the old red/blue 3D of my childhood, polarized 3D created a depth that made me feel like I was looking into a stage, not having objects unnaturally protrude from the screen toward me. (Too bad the 3D live-action films that followed it couldn't carry the 3D effect of the animated ones. From there stemmed my dislike of theatrical 3D.) Watching this 3D Blu-ray of 'Prometheus' reminded me of my 'Monster House' experience. The third dimension reaches deep into 'Prometheus,' never looking like a layered pop-up book but naturally and gradually transitioning to those great depths. It's so realistic that a few shots of the Prometheus space craft in flight are dizzying.
Having watched both the 2D and 3D discs, I can attest to the 3D carrying a brighter image to compensate for the darkening glasses. When I first watched 'Prometheus' on the big screen, I was worried about the 3D image because of how dark the underground settings were going to be. Luckily, Ridley Scott and his crew constantly monitored the brightness through real-time 3D monitors and split-image 2D monitors as they shot the film. Even in the darkest scenes, they managed the lighting so well that there is never a loss of third dimension. The brightness of these dark scenes permits the sharpest and finest details to be seen. There isn't an ounce of detail or depth loss.
My only complaint with the Blu-ray release is a personal gripe. On IMAX, the frame was opened up from the standard theatrical 2.40:1 ratio to 2:1. Because 'Prometheus' is such an epic film on a grand scope, more is better. My wish is that the 3D disc would have featured the IMAX 2:1 ratio.
The Audio: Rating the Sound
If I could give 'Prometheus'' 7.1 DTS-HD Master Audio track a rating higher than 5 stars, I would. Hearing it cranked up on a 7.1 system, I heard sounds that I never recognized during my theatrical viewings. The first time I screened 'Prometheus,' I was immediately reeled into the film by the beautiful score overlaying breathtaking landscapes during the opening credits. Hearing the score via this mix is just as wowing. It establishes a grand tone equal to that of the movie that you're about to see.
Once the film takes us into the flight deck of the Prometheus ship, the mixing of the effects makes itself apparent. The effects emitting from every channel are clearly audible. As quiet as some might be, you can easily hear them all - sensors beeping behind you, controls being toggled to the side of you, thrusters outside the ship causing a low bassy rumble. When we're taken to exterior shots of the ship cutting its way through the atmosphere, those same thrusters combined with the atmospheric friction create a deep and resonant LFE that will shake your theater room. One of my favorite sounds in the film is that of the LV-223 storm rolling in. The gusts blast small pieces of metallic rock through the air. As they collide with one another mid-flight, the high-pitch clanking sounds amazing. One thing that I never noticed until listening to this 7.1 mix was that when Prometheus lands on the surface of LV-223, the downward thrusters kick up that same metallic gravel and those same sounds can be heard.
The imaging effects of this mix are seamless and astounding. Take, for example, this same storm sequence. It's obvious that it was shot with the audio in mind because every shot of the storm shows the rocks blowing from left to right. Not a single frame shows it any other way. This causes the wind to relentlessly throw debris in that same direction. It's furious and never lets up. The non-stop left-to-right sound is unnerving. I found myself wanting the shot to switch angles just so that the left-to-right motion would let up. The level of detail put into these imaging sounds is phenomenal. It sounds as if you can literally track these individual blowing rocks from one side of the theater to the other – and there are hundreds, if not thousands, of them.
The vocal detail of this mix is also worth noting. The character that warrants the most attention vocally is David. Fassbender's voice resonates with a rich, deep bass. There's one effect applied to a certain character's voice that I'd like to explain to you, but I cannot because it would reveal a major plot point. (If you want to know, ask me in the forums.) Just like I did with the effects mixing, I heard vocals in the Blu-ray mix that I didn't know existed during my theatrical viewings. They say that no one can hear you scream in space; well, we can surely hear them scream on the surface of LV-223. I didn't hear the many screams Rapace and Charlize Theron let out throughout the film until now.
If you can't watch 'Prometheus' with the audio cranked up because the kids are in bed, don't watch it. This lossless 7.1 mix deserves to be heard as loudly as possible. |
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| Posted: Sun Oct 21, 2012 10:50 pm Post subject: |
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Saw it about a week ago. Excellent movie, and some of the dark scenes would look awesome on a CRT. Tons of detail, too. Two thumbs up.
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I ordered mine on the 9th and it reached the POB today after closing. FedEx Smartport stated departure was on the 14th and it took 9 days for them to hand it off to the USPS. Nine freaking days!
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| Posted: Wed Oct 24, 2012 2:24 am Post subject: |
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Get Prime, Wan. SmartPost sucks and now so does Free SuperSaver. Prime solves the problem.
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Its did suck in this case. The Amazon warehouse in this case was also in Georgia.
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That's terrible, Wan. Crazy.
I love Prime. It's the best $79 I've ever spent at Amazon. My old man and I share it (you can share with immediate family), so it was only half. A steal. We both use it enough that we come out way, way ahead, and I never have to wait more than a couple of days... "Not quite instant" gratification. If I am in a hurry for something, it's $3.99 for overnight.
I love Amazon.
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Saw it on IMAX, WOW !
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| Posted: Fri Oct 26, 2012 3:45 pm Post subject: Re: Prometheus 3D [Blu-ray] |
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| kal wrote: | Another reference disc!
Prometheus (Blu-ray 3D/ Blu-ray/ DVD/ Digital Copy) (2012)
(Hover over link for price, click to purchase and support our forum at no extra cost to you)
| Quote: | Here it is, folks – my new favorite demo disc. The four-disc 3D Blu-ray release of 'Prometheus' never stops wowing. Watching the film itself is a journey that I wish I could take again for the first time. Upon reflection and analysis (with the help of these hearty special features), it only gets better. Sure, there are those who loath 'Prometheus' – and I've carried on extensive debate-like conversations defending the arguments – but I stand by my opinion that this is one of the very best contemporary science fiction films, a more-than-worthy chapter in the 'Alien'-verse. Although it's not adored by everyone and didn't warrant the greatest box office response, Fox has given it a huge release that's comparable to that of the extended edition of 'Avatar,' the only difference being that 'Avatar' recycled clips and interviews between it's several discs of special features and 'Prometheus' doesn't. The 3D video and audio qualities are perfect, not a single flaw to be found. Both offer environmental enhancements that take you deeper into the world of the film than you can imagine. Do not settle for anything less than this four-disc set. Even if you have a Blu-ray player but not a 3D television, shell out the extra $5 for the four-disc set. You pay for what you get and this is definitely worth it.
The Video: Sizing Up the Picture
If you've followed my theatrical reviews, you know that I'm not a fan of theatrical 3D – which is why it really meant something when I not only highly recommended seeing 'Prometheus' in 3D on the big screen, but went back to see it embiggened on the IMAX screen. Between theatrical and Blu-ray review screenings, I rarely have time for recreational theatrical outings, but I made time to see 'Prometheus' on IMAX. Just as I recommended seeing it on 3D screens, I highly recommend the 3D Blu-ray. The 1080p/MPEG-4 MVC transfer is absolutely perfect.
The 3D look of 'Prometheus' is astounding. My first experience with the latest and greatest polarized 3D was 'Monster House.' I remember sitting there with my jaw agape because, unlike the old red/blue 3D of my childhood, polarized 3D created a depth that made me feel like I was looking into a stage, not having objects unnaturally protrude from the screen toward me. (Too bad the 3D live-action films that followed it couldn't carry the 3D effect of the animated ones. From there stemmed my dislike of theatrical 3D.) Watching this 3D Blu-ray of 'Prometheus' reminded me of my 'Monster House' experience. The third dimension reaches deep into 'Prometheus,' never looking like a layered pop-up book but naturally and gradually transitioning to those great depths. It's so realistic that a few shots of the Prometheus space craft in flight are dizzying.
Having watched both the 2D and 3D discs, I can attest to the 3D carrying a brighter image to compensate for the darkening glasses. When I first watched 'Prometheus' on the big screen, I was worried about the 3D image because of how dark the underground settings were going to be. Luckily, Ridley Scott and his crew constantly monitored the brightness through real-time 3D monitors and split-image 2D monitors as they shot the film. Even in the darkest scenes, they managed the lighting so well that there is never a loss of third dimension. The brightness of these dark scenes permits the sharpest and finest details to be seen. There isn't an ounce of detail or depth loss.
My only complaint with the Blu-ray release is a personal gripe. On IMAX, the frame was opened up from the standard theatrical 2.40:1 ratio to 2:1. Because 'Prometheus' is such an epic film on a grand scope, more is better. My wish is that the 3D disc would have featured the IMAX 2:1 ratio.
The Audio: Rating the Sound
If I could give 'Prometheus'' 7.1 DTS-HD Master Audio track a rating higher than 5 stars, I would. Hearing it cranked up on a 7.1 system, I heard sounds that I never recognized during my theatrical viewings. The first time I screened 'Prometheus,' I was immediately reeled into the film by the beautiful score overlaying breathtaking landscapes during the opening credits. Hearing the score via this mix is just as wowing. It establishes a grand tone equal to that of the movie that you're about to see.
Once the film takes us into the flight deck of the Prometheus ship, the mixing of the effects makes itself apparent. The effects emitting from every channel are clearly audible. As quiet as some might be, you can easily hear them all - sensors beeping behind you, controls being toggled to the side of you, thrusters outside the ship causing a low bassy rumble. When we're taken to exterior shots of the ship cutting its way through the atmosphere, those same thrusters combined with the atmospheric friction create a deep and resonant LFE that will shake your theater room. One of my favorite sounds in the film is that of the LV-223 storm rolling in. The gusts blast small pieces of metallic rock through the air. As they collide with one another mid-flight, the high-pitch clanking sounds amazing. One thing that I never noticed until listening to this 7.1 mix was that when Prometheus lands on the surface of LV-223, the downward thrusters kick up that same metallic gravel and those same sounds can be heard.
The imaging effects of this mix are seamless and astounding. Take, for example, this same storm sequence. It's obvious that it was shot with the audio in mind because every shot of the storm shows the rocks blowing from left to right. Not a single frame shows it any other way. This causes the wind to relentlessly throw debris in that same direction. It's furious and never lets up. The non-stop left-to-right sound is unnerving. I found myself wanting the shot to switch angles just so that the left-to-right motion would let up. The level of detail put into these imaging sounds is phenomenal. It sounds as if you can literally track these individual blowing rocks from one side of the theater to the other – and there are hundreds, if not thousands, of them.
The vocal detail of this mix is also worth noting. The character that warrants the most attention vocally is David. Fassbender's voice resonates with a rich, deep bass. There's one effect applied to a certain character's voice that I'd like to explain to you, but I cannot because it would reveal a major plot point. (If you want to know, ask me in the forums.) Just like I did with the effects mixing, I heard vocals in the Blu-ray mix that I didn't know existed during my theatrical viewings. They say that no one can hear you scream in space; well, we can surely hear them scream on the surface of LV-223. I didn't hear the many screams Rapace and Charlize Theron let out throughout the film until now.
If you can't watch 'Prometheus' with the audio cranked up because the kids are in bed, don't watch it. This lossless 7.1 mix deserves to be heard as loudly as possible. |
Kal |
Kal:
I concur with everything you say including the fact that at points in the movie it certainly makes your subwoofer's "woof". I would submit, however, the only negative, if you call it that, and I am assuming you may have found a similar response, is that the Blu-Ray disc(I haven't tried the 3D version yet) is quite slow in loading(one of the slowest in recent times) and I have an Oppo BDP95.
Did you find the same?
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| kal wrote: | | I use a PS3 and it's really fast at loading just about anything. |
Ditto. Every 30 or 40 movies or so, I'll have one that seems to take a bit longer than others, but it's so rare I've never tried to figure out the how/why.
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1st time i watched it in 3D with a stacked digital Barco system.
2nd time now in 2D on my CRT.
This movie is a must for every CRT user 
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