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Weird Marquee problem

 
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Curt Palme
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Posted: Tue Jun 12, 2012 2:15 pm    Post subject: Weird Marquee problem

OK, novices and experts alike, fix this one!

A Marquee that I got in would jump between very low (20?) contrast and 100%, as I'd ramp up the contrast. Ditto when I ramped down. NEver seen this before. Found the problem area quickly, but can you guess what it was?
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Jeremy112



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Posted: Tue Jun 12, 2012 2:20 pm    Post subject: Re: Weird Marquee problem

Curt Palme wrote:
OK, novices and experts alike, fix this one!

A Marquee that I got in would jump between very low (20?) contrast and 100%, as I'd ramp up the contrast. Ditto when I ramped down. NEver seen this before. Found the problem area quickly, but can you guess what it was?


Dirty connections? Something disconnected? A part that opened up???

I have a good one for you as well curt, a NEC XG that displays perfectly, until after it warms up, then you can notice the blue raster very easily in dark scenes on screen.

Can you guess what the cause is??? Very Happy Cause I sure as hell can't!! Question Question Laughing

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Posted: Tue Jun 12, 2012 2:25 pm    Post subject:

Oh, there's a part that opened up alright! Razz

With yours, have you swapped CRT sockets/video amps between tubes?
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Posted: Tue Jun 12, 2012 4:23 pm    Post subject:

The ad834 or 835 on the VIM?

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Tim in Phoenix



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Posted: Tue Jun 12, 2012 4:36 pm    Post subject:

Uhhh

Glycol on the motherboard?


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dturco



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Posted: Tue Jun 12, 2012 5:02 pm    Post subject:

Daughter board on the CLM
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Posted: Tue Jun 12, 2012 6:14 pm    Post subject:

Sweet, the pros are checking in, and not even close to the correct guess! Hahahahahahaha!

3 more guesses and I'll reveal...
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Posted: Tue Jun 12, 2012 6:14 pm    Post subject:

The Remote.

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Curt Palme
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Posted: Tue Jun 12, 2012 6:18 pm    Post subject:

Nope. 2 to go.
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Posted: Tue Jun 12, 2012 6:24 pm    Post subject:

You forgot to use your $500 aftermarket power cord?

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Posted: Tue Jun 12, 2012 6:32 pm    Post subject:

That doesn't even count as a guess!
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Posted: Tue Jun 12, 2012 7:15 pm    Post subject:

You found a dead insect on the CLM, shorting two pads, didn't you?
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Posted: Tue Jun 12, 2012 7:18 pm    Post subject:

Bent pin on the VIM to back plane connector?

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Posted: Tue Jun 12, 2012 7:19 pm    Post subject:

Nope. 1 more guess, and I'll spill the beans.
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Posted: Tue Jun 12, 2012 7:21 pm    Post subject:

VNB umbilical cord connected backwards?


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Nashou66



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Posted: Tue Jun 12, 2012 7:21 pm    Post subject:

I'm just guessing stupid things now
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Posted: Tue Jun 12, 2012 7:25 pm    Post subject:

I'll guess at the emitter/receiver issue.
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Posted: Tue Jun 12, 2012 7:27 pm    Post subject:

OK here goes: The CCM! Ironically, I'd put the projector on the bench (a recent acquisition) to check the ACON board and the CCM that a customer had bought. The set had both installed, but the set didn't recognize either. Then I realized that someone had pulled both out just far enough to be out of module contact range.

I unplugged the set, reseated both the CCM and ACON boards, and ran into this problem where the contrast would strobe when increased or decreased. I lucked out, since I realized that the problem had only started when I'd inserted the boards, so the cause was pretty obvious. Once I pulled the CCM, there was a badly burned 1/4 watt resistor on the board. I rarely see these boards fail, so I just threw it out, since I have about 10 spares, but it's a good one for Marquee owners to remember. THe other bad CCM I had caused all sorts of splotching on an all white field. that was a few years ago, and I thought I'd bought a set with strange wear patterns. Nope, the tubes ended up being mint.
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Posted: Tue Jun 12, 2012 10:33 pm    Post subject:

Curt Palme wrote:
Oh, there's a part that opened up alright! Razz

With yours, have you swapped CRT sockets/video amps between tubes?


I've not tried that, that would be a good idea since I have to face facts that every electronic adjustment I have done short of Position Shift has no effect on it. So I'll try that out this weekend.

What opened up??? Very Happy

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Posted: Tue Jun 12, 2012 11:15 pm    Post subject:

A resistor on the board went up in smoke. I suspect that a small capacitor has a dead short on it, but as I mentioned, since I have 10 spares, I just threw it out.
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