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Video editing software that can crop 16x9 out of 4x3 image?

 
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AnalogRocks
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Posted: Sat Nov 12, 2011 11:35 pm    Post subject: Video editing software that can crop 16x9 out of 4x3 image?

No NOT a Tippard chinese spam post.

I have a bunch of recordings that are off analog cable. They are 16x9 leterboxed in a 4:3 screen.

I'm looking for a piece of video software that can chop the black bars off the top and bottom leaving just the 16x9 video.
They are in Mpeg2 format 720x480.

Any suggestions?

And, as always I'm cheap so free is better Mr. Green

EDIT: added the funny about tippard

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Posted: Sat Nov 12, 2011 11:52 pm    Post subject: Re: Video editing software that can crop 16x9 out of 4x3 ima

AnalogRocks wrote:
I have a bunch of recordings that are off analog cable. They are 16x9 leterboxed in a 4:3 screen.

I'm looking for a piece of video software that can chop the black bars off the top and bottom leaving just the 16x9 video.
They are in Mpeg2 format 720x480.

Any suggestions?

And, as always I'm cheap so free is better Mr. Green


Bet your now wishing you didn't delete all those spammers...... Laughing
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Posted: Sun Nov 13, 2011 12:03 am    Post subject: Re: Video editing software that can crop 16x9 out of 4x3 ima

macgyver655 wrote:
AnalogRocks wrote:
I have a bunch of recordings that are off analog cable. They are 16x9 leterboxed in a 4:3 screen.

I'm looking for a piece of video software that can chop the black bars off the top and bottom leaving just the 16x9 video.
They are in Mpeg2 format 720x480.

Any suggestions?

And, as always I'm cheap so free is better Mr. Green


Bet your now wishing you didn't delete all those spammers...... Laughing


YOU READ MY MIND :LOL:

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Posted: Sun Nov 13, 2011 12:07 am    Post subject:

Actually when I saw the title and then saw the user name I was going to contact the Canadian Mounted Police and report an abduction........ Laughing
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Posted: Sun Nov 13, 2011 12:10 am    Post subject:

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Actually when I saw the title and then saw the user name I was going to contact the Canadian Mounted Police and report an abduction........ Laughing


Awwww that would have been awful, I look terrible in red.

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Posted: Tue Nov 15, 2011 8:13 am    Post subject:

BUMP still lookin
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Posted: Tue Nov 15, 2011 3:45 pm    Post subject:

are they stored in a non-analog format? if so i bet that you could do that with the imagemagic suite of tools. i've done similar on a smaller scale.

step one, pull apart the frames. with "convert"
step two crop each frame with "convert -crop"
step three assemble into a video with combine"

it's all command line programmable so the machine does all the brute force for you. you'll need a whack of scratch disk for the frame storage, but it would work. and it's free.

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Posted: Thu Nov 17, 2011 2:28 pm    Post subject:

AR,
What are you playing the files with? MPC-HC has really nice aspect ratio control. You can just zoom the image using the arrow keys. Not what you were after but might be a quick fix.

http://mpc-hc.sourceforge.net/

It also has some really cool sharping pixel shaders that can bring out nice detail on SD files. I had not watched an SD-DVD in years on my projector because they looked so soft. I recently watched the whole Star Trek Enterprise series on DVD using the sharpening and it really looked decent.


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Posted: Thu Nov 17, 2011 11:50 pm    Post subject:

I am not sure if this will work, but my best friend said he just bought VHS to DVD 5.0.
http://www.honestech.com/main/vhs-to-dvd-50-deluxe.asp
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Posted: Wed Dec 21, 2011 8:58 am    Post subject:

MikeEby wrote:
AR,
What are you playing the files with? MPC-HC has really nice aspect ratio control. You can just zoom the image using the arrow keys. Not what you were after but might be a quick fix.

http://mpc-hc.sourceforge.net/

It also has some really cool sharping pixel shaders that can bring out nice detail on SD files. I had not watched an SD-DVD in years on my projector because they looked so soft. I recently watched the whole Star Trek Enterprise series on DVD using the sharpening and it really looked decent.


Mike


Just got back to this. They are playing on a Samsung Galaxy Tab it doesn't have the aspect ratio control.

I figured it out. I used Handbrake, let it do an auto-crop, after converting the MPEG2 file to H.264 MPEG4. Viola, full 16x9 crop from the 4:3 video file and full screen on play back on the 'Tab.

One strange thing though. The Beyond TV transcodes the 720x480 MPEG2 file to 720x960 H.264 hmmmm....

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Posted: Tue Dec 27, 2011 4:44 pm    Post subject: Re: Video editing software that can crop 16x9 out of 4x3 ima

AnalogRocks wrote:
No NOT a Tippard chinese spam post.

I have a bunch of recordings that are off analog cable. They are 16x9 leterboxed in a 4:3 screen.

I'm looking for a piece of video software that can chop the black bars off the top and bottom leaving just the 16x9 video.
They are in Mpeg2 format 720x480.

Any suggestions?

And, as always I'm cheap so free is better Mr. Green

EDIT: added the funny about tippard


I just did what you want last night.

I have a copy of White Christmas recorded in SD off my TiVo but the picture was 16X9 letterboxed in the 4X3 frame.

I used VideoReDo TVSuite V4 to reincode the stream cropping off the black bars on top and bottom and expanding the screen to 16X9.

Here's a link - http://www.videoredo.com/en/index.htm

It is not free ($97 or so) but it works and does so very well and can do an HD stream also - the best.

I cut out the commercials and saved it as a .Tivo file then went back and reloaded it and cropped the 4X3 image to 16X9 and burned it to a DVD - worked great.

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Posted: Wed Dec 28, 2011 12:10 am    Post subject: Re: Video editing software that can crop 16x9 out of 4x3 ima

Jim5506 wrote:
AnalogRocks wrote:
No NOT a Tippard chinese spam post.

I have a bunch of recordings that are off analog cable. They are 16x9 leterboxed in a 4:3 screen.

I'm looking for a piece of video software that can chop the black bars off the top and bottom leaving just the 16x9 video.
They are in Mpeg2 format 720x480.

Any suggestions?

And, as always I'm cheap so free is better Mr. Green

EDIT: added the funny about tippard


I just did what you want last night.

I have a copy of White Christmas recorded in SD off my TiVo but the picture was 16X9 letterboxed in the 4X3 frame.

I used VideoReDo TVSuite V4 to reincode the stream cropping off the black bars on top and bottom and expanding the screen to 16X9.

Here's a link - http://www.videoredo.com/en/index.htm

It is not free ($97 or so) but it works and does so very well and can do an HD stream also - the best.

I cut out the commercials and saved it as a .Tivo file then went back and reloaded it and cropped the 4X3 image to 16X9 and burned it to a DVD - worked great.


I used handbrake, it's free and works really well. I needed to crop the 16x9 out of the 4:3 for use on a tablet. The other side effect was the reduced video size. Combined with MP4 compression a 1 hour show less the commercials (44min run time) comes in under 700mb and will fit on a CD-R! How cool is that?

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