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**kal**

Finally!

I have a thing for sub movies and this one's definitely my favourite:

This is the full 282 minute version, not the bastardized American version.

If you watch one sub movie, this is the one to watch! It stole some ideas from the earlier 1958 Run Silent Run Deep with Clark Gable but the grit and realism of Das Boot makes it an easier watch in 2011 (I find some of the older movies need a different mindset to enjoy).

Think of this movie as the gritty thinking man's version of U-571. (U-571 is basically a mish-mash of every sub movie that came out before it, simplified and glossed over).

Link to purchase Das Boot on Blu-ray and support our forum: http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/B004SUDQ4U/curtpalmecrtp-20

Kal

**AnalogRocks** · Posted: Wed May 04, 2011 12:36 am Post subject:

I have the U282 version. Great edition. 'Cept it's on 2 VHS tapes Laughing

Looking forward to this one.

mc86 · Posted: Wed May 04, 2011 2:20 am Post subject:

I saw this, too -- but my wife failed to see why I'd need a version to go with my 2 LDs and the DVD of this. Any idea how come wikipedia says the DVD TV mini-series DVD version is listed at 293mins mini-series versions and the blu-ray is 282min version?

Matt

**kal** · Posted: Wed May 04, 2011 2:43 am Post subject:

Good question.

The 293 seems to be the "original uncut version".

A quote:

**kal** · Posted: Wed May 04, 2011 2:46 am Post subject:

More confusion:

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0082096/

They claim the runtime of the various versions is: 149 min | 209 min (director's cut) | 293 min (uncut version)

But if you go to the Amazon order page (http://www.amazon.com/dp/B004SUDQ4U?tag=curtpalmecrtp-20&link_code=as3&creativeASIN=B004SUDQ4U&creative=373489&camp=211189) it certainly called a 'directors cut' but is listed as 149 mins in the product details, but then 282 minutes in the amazon.com editorial reviews.

Confusing.

Kal

**kal** · Posted: Wed May 04, 2011 2:53 am Post subject:

Ok, it's likely the 209 minute directors cut.

From TheDigitalBits.com:

**AnalogRocks** · Posted: Wed May 04, 2011 4:50 am Post subject:

I'll see if I can find my VHS to compare. I remember watching that in the last 10 years Laughing

WanMan · Joined: 19 Mar 2006 Posts: 10270

Was this originally a German miniseries?

mc86 · Posted: Wed May 04, 2011 4:42 pm Post subject:

I dunno -- the BBC was (5) 60mins shows, so could easily have been 300min - 18mins of talk total. I'd bet we are all splitting hairs. The director's cut is already on my favorite movie list...but the extra duration would push it from a marathon movie to a 2-parter, for sure...at that point it really stops being a movie, in my book. Plus part of what I love about the length is that sitting there for that long really helps let the feeling pervade.

hmmm...time to search for crt folks' favorite films and favorite show-off/visual movies...haven't explored much of these parts of the forum!

Matt

My favorites, not a critical rating list, just my favorites (you'll see I like character studies, of a sort)
1. Shawshank Redemption
2. Unfaithfully Yours (Rex Harrison)
3. The Sound of Music / The Music Man
4. Groundhog Day / Waking Ned Devine
5. Das Boot
6. Star Wars IV-VI
7. Toy Story / Wallace and Grommit Shorts
8. Weird Science / Stand By Me
9. Fargo/Raising Arizona/The Hudsucker Proxy
10. The Bridge Over the River Kwai / Saving Private Ryan

dvh99 · Joined: 25 Dec 2009 Posts: 2158 Location: nederland

http://www.cinefacts.de/blu-ray-film/59183-das-boot-directors-cut.html

this link talks about a 209 mins version but if it`s the same as the disc at amazon, i don`t know.

certainly confusing.
can they get 5 hours of movie on 1 blu ray btw without compromising quality too much?

ChrisWiggles · Posted: Sat Sep 10, 2011 7:55 pm Post subject:

I just wanted to chime in and say that this is a FANTASTIC BD, and the re-done sound is truly exceptional. I hadn't seen this movie since I was a kid, and it was simply brilliant all the way around. Picture quality was meticulously excellent.

"this link talks about a 209 mins version but if it`s the same as the disc at amazon, i don`t know.

certainly confusing.
can they get 5 hours of movie on 1 blu ray btw without compromising quality too much?"

The TV-version (I think that's the 5-hour version) is not included in this release. In this release is the directors cut 208 mins(~3.5hrs) on a single BD, and the shorter theatrical cut 149-minutes on a separate BD, along with a bunch of pretty interesting extra features.

I watched most of the extra features and the Director's Cut (that has the new soundtrack). I didn't watch the shorter theatrical cut. I have never seen the longer TV mini-series version, but they have some clips from that and talk about it in some of the extra features. Director Wolfgang Peterson describes his director's cut as kind of a happy medium between the much shorter theatrical cut and the very long TV version in one of the extra features dedicated specifically to the creation of the director's cut (with I think the original film editor if I recall correctly), along with completely re-creating the soundtrack from the original elements and a lot of new foley effects and heavier surround and bass usage (which is FANTASTIC!).

"I can't imagine this is a dubbed for English version! That would not be good."

Kal: Nono, definitely not, the original German is the main lossless audio track (for the director's cut). There is also an English dub on there, which as far as dubs go (I took a peek for a few scenes) is excellent, because most all of the main actors were bilingual, so I think they re-did their own English dubs for a newer version (I'm not clear where?). The original English dubs were done by English actors with strong British accents, which sound utterly ridiculous (they talk about this in the extra features). Regardless, the original German is the main track and no you're not stuck with a sh*tty dub. And it sounds GREAT!!! (did I mention that already enough??? Very Happy

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This is a must-rent, and for any submarine movie fans a definite must-buy BD.

**kal** · Posted: Sun Sep 11, 2011 1:18 am Post subject:

Cool. I figured there's no way they'd force a dubbed movie on us. I own the DVD and love the movie, this Blu-ray's sitting in my "to watch" pile on my shelf.

I'd be interested in the full blown 5-hour version too. They don't need to cram it in one disc. 2-3 discs is fine. No different than all the other really long movies out there on BD.

Speaking of which, I'm looking forward to this 5 and half hour (339 minute) movie: Carlos (Criterion Collection) [Blu-ray] (2010). Comes out in 2 weeks. It's split over two discs.

Kal

ChrisWiggles · Posted: Sun Sep 11, 2011 8:02 am Post subject:

**kal** · Posted: Sun Sep 11, 2011 1:45 pm Post subject:

Yup, I liked Generation Kill for that reason as well. Unglorified war.

I can't say I know a thing it myself (having never experienced it) but I figure in most cases it's 99.99% waiting followed by a few seconds of sheer terror. Frankly, I don't know how anyone could do it.

I really liked Che as well when I watched it last year on Blu-ray. It is indeed the first (or one of the first) full features shot on Red. There's a good documentary about it in the discs too which I found really interesting.

Kal