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dturco
Joined: 06 Feb 2009 Posts: 3778 Location: Eastern Shore Maryland
TV/Projector: Runco DLP VX-3000i Marquee 9500 parts doner
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| Posted: Tue Nov 30, 2010 8:20 pm Post subject: 30 Minutes to unpott a 9" tube. |
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I don't know if that's good or bad.
But it was very easy. No the tube isn't ready for reinstall but it is out of the Ampro housing and ready to be cleaned up.
Here's what I did. I used a Japanese saw to cut around the tube at the housing. I cut next to the tube glass, and then next to the housing on all four sides. Then I put some GOOF OFF on the silicone and dug into the silicone with a small screwdriver and a old style masonry Cut Nail that I dragged in the grove back and forth. This allowed big chunks to come out very easy. Then I took a 2 1/2 inch flexible putty knife and ran it under the tube edge at the housing [very, very, very, carefully} to break the seal of the silicone. Last thing was to gently pry the tube up at the four corners with a very small 1/8" screwdriver the same one I used to dig out the silicone. The Goof off was applied and reapplied a few times.
I used the small screw driver on purpose for this so I couldn't exert too much force there. I'm sure if you get carried away you still could break the tube.
No pressing, no hammers, no gasoline, no real problems, just a little patience.
Maybe a decent way to do it with out the gasoline?
Anyway, it worked great for me.
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km987654
Joined: 25 Jul 2007 Posts: 2874 Location: Australia
TV/Projector: Barco BG809s
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That all sound good. I would say though that I have found Ampro tubes are easier to remove from their LC tanks than say Barco tubes which will require additional help.
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Tom.W
Joined: 09 Mar 2006 Posts: 6635
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Can you post a link to the so-called undercut or flush cut saw source ?
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garyfritz
Joined: 08 Apr 2006 Posts: 12088 Location: Fort Collins, CO
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Google "Japanese saw" or "flush-cut saw" and you'll find plenty of examples...
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stefuel
Joined: 07 Mar 2006 Posts: 3353 Location: Green Harbor MA USA
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| Posted: Tue Nov 30, 2010 10:31 pm Post subject: |
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AmPro housings are childs play.
Come back later and tell us how long it takes to remove a tube fron a Quee housing without the use of gasoline
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zGman
Joined: 22 May 2006 Posts: 599
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| Posted: Tue Nov 30, 2010 10:41 pm Post subject: |
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About 15 - 20 minutes to remove 9" tube from Marquee housing, no gasoline required.
Longer to clean all the goop off the mounting plate.
G
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cmjohnson
Joined: 03 Apr 2006 Posts: 5180 Location: Buried under G90s
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Using a suitably long 1/4" diameter drill bit and a cordless drill, you can punch dozens of holes in the silicone around a tube in a Marquee
housing in just a couple of minutes. Then it's easy to cut through the remaining silicone.
I do recommend pressing the CRT out of the housing once you've weakened the silicone. Shape a wooden block to fit the face of the
CRT (as much as possible, you want maximum area to distribute the pressure) which is thick enough to stick out from the front of the LC assembly by an inch or so. Place the assembly, with block in place, face down on your workbench. Use pipe clamps on both sides of
the assembly (located near the corner of your workbench) to apply gentle, even, and slowly increasing pressure on the LC housing,
pushing it down while the tube stays put. It'll pop out soon enough.
I'm about to have to perform this process on three more LC assemblies. I've got new tubes to install in them.
AmPros are indeed easy. I've taken tubes off of AmPro mounts in five minutes. A carpenter's razor knife is a fine product for this task,
but if you really want to get slick, poke a hole through the silicone in the gap and push a small diameter WOUND guitar string through the hole. Wrap both ends of the string around a couple of sticks and use it as a wire saw. You will be able to saw the silicone all the
way around in about a minute. Get an assistant to keep the tube from popping out and hitting the floor, though.
CJ
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dturco
Joined: 06 Feb 2009 Posts: 3778 Location: Eastern Shore Maryland
TV/Projector: Runco DLP VX-3000i Marquee 9500 parts doner
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Heh, it was my first un-potting I thought it was too easy. It'll be quite a while before I have to un-pott a Marquee tube, I have Bare L/C chambers to put the pt-22's in.
When I do the marquee chambers on P/J #2 [When I get it] I'll find out about the chambers then.
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PiDD
Joined: 03 Dec 2006 Posts: 87 Location: Winnipeg, Manitoba
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That is a LOT better than my result... im still picking glass outta my hair
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secstate
Joined: 20 Mar 2006 Posts: 720
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| stefuel wrote: | AmPro housings are childs play.
Come back later and tell us how long it takes to remove a tube fron a Quee housing without the use of gasoline  |
Maybe it was just me but removing the new P16LNPs I got off of GL a few years ago from the Ampro retro housings drove me NUTs. I did it in the end but arrrgh. Of course those Ampro tubes probably knew I was a Barco guy and decided to stick it to me.
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cmjohnson
Joined: 03 Apr 2006 Posts: 5180 Location: Buried under G90s
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| PiDD wrote: | That is a LOT better than my result... im still picking glass outta my hair  |
I can NOT believe that you left the C element in the housing when you did that!
Scratch up a C element and it's virtually worthless! But you can get up to 300 dollars for a good green C element!
You really didn't have to start busting stuff. Even on an 8" LC chamber, it's not that hard to get the tube out.
You just need patience. Your photo implies that you don't have a lot.
CJ
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CIR Engineering
Joined: 25 Aug 2008 Posts: 4269 Location: Chicago USA & Berlin Germany
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| dturco wrote: | Heh, it was my first un-potting I thought it was too easy. It'll be quite a while before I have to un-pott a Marquee tube, I have Bare L/C chambers to put the pt-22's in.
When I do the marquee chambers on P/J #2 [When I get it] I'll find out about the chambers then. |
Congratulations on success on your first try Nice work
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PiDD
Joined: 03 Dec 2006 Posts: 87 Location: Winnipeg, Manitoba
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I thought I did... I cut out all the silicone.. I let gasoline sit in there for a day... I got more silicone out. I used Curts hammer method. (Curt you might want to add.. 'put on a diaper when it comes to the hammer part') and BANG!!!! what a mess. That was my first attempt ever at it... I know a little more now but I still would be shaking if I had to do it again.
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karmat63
Joined: 19 Dec 2007 Posts: 157 Location: Italy
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| stefuel wrote: | AmPro housings are childs play.
Come back later and tell us how long it takes to remove a tube fron a Quee housing without the use of gasoline  |
It was not all that hard: I only used a big flat screwdriver to remove the silicone and then an hammer used as a wedge to free the tube from the LC chamber. Just need to be careful and apply only a mild pressure to each angle of the housing, until the tube pop out.
Three tubes removed in about an hour (LC chamber send to a friend ). Maybe I was so fast as I din't care about my worn tubes...
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roland@b4
Joined: 07 Jul 2009 Posts: 82 Location: Reading UK
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I had success by removing the C element, poking a thin hole through the silicon with a small screwdriver. I was then able to push a thin wire like a piano or guitar string through.
Then just worked this all the way round and the tube just popped out of the old housing.
No sawing digging or slashing of wrists with knives or saws
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wadde
Joined: 19 Jan 2010 Posts: 27 Location: Sweden
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*oops. double post*
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wadde
Joined: 19 Jan 2010 Posts: 27 Location: Sweden
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Aherm. I see twoo things that doesent belong to the set while handling tubes.... two hammers :p
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PiDD
Joined: 03 Dec 2006 Posts: 87 Location: Winnipeg, Manitoba
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Maybe I had the wrong type of hammers! Curt uses the wooden ones ;P
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