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[mr_ro_co]

So I was a very early adopter of Moome's first input card for my MP9. It has worked well with no issues. I decided to upgrade to his latest greatest, particularly the V2 with the Mike Parker enhancements. I received the card yesterday and popped it in last night. The image is very dark. I properly adjusted the gamma trimmer and then maxed out the gamma with the remote. Still totally unwatchable. Pop the original card back in, image is fine.

Has anyone else experienced this issue?

Steve

[dturco]

Yes I have.

http://www.curtpalme.com/docs/vim_fullhd_v30.pdf

The new Moome card has many settings that must be set to work. On page 7 of the Manual there is a chart which should help.

First you need to set your source to match the Moome input 16-235 range, then set the Moome to match at 16-235, then set gamma with remote to Minimum, than Maximum, to check that it functions properly. If your Moome is set for 0-255 and your Madigral was "set up" with the 16-235 the image will be off and of course vice-versa for these settings.

I have my card set for max Gamma, using 100, then backed off 3 clicks with Gamma up down buttons. I also have my whole video chain set to 16-235 per Craig Rounds optimization of video chain.

My card is 1 year old and I do not have the black boost function of button "C". So I don't know what that will do.

[mr_ro_co]

[dturco]

I not familiar with the PS3 settings I don't have one, nor have I ever used one.

AnalogRocks did a thread for the HD Fury which should help.

https://www.curtpalme.com/forum_archived/viewtopic.php@t=14904.html

I think it would be under video settings for 16-235 or the 422 setting is best.

[mr_ro_co]

I did delve into the display settings on the PS3 last night and didn't see anything regarding output range or 422/444 settings. There's deep color support on/off, HDMI mode in RGB or YPrYPb, stuff like that.

I'll mess around with these settings and read through the link on the HDFury you provided.

Thanks much!

Steve

[dturco]

[mr_ro_co]

[moome]

[cinema mad]

MR RO CO

You need to use the Black boost function by pressing Button C on the remote while aiming at the VIM V2 card
then adjust your Gamma for desired result..
Look at page 6 0f the Vim V2 owners manual(PDF) for the remote control function layout..

I use Black Boost function or image is Dark & I know Moome uses Black Boost function for His G90..

Hope this helps..

[dvh99]

dont know if you have solved it but again i had the same issue, cleaning the connectors on the moome card solved it.
seems the marquee (probably other crt pjs too) suffer from being sensitive to dirty contacts.

[fishlogan]

i have the same problem with version 3
its quite strange, im feeding the unit with a htpc nvidia 460 gtx
if i set a custom reslution to anything other than hdtv resolutions ie 1440x1152, or even 1980 x 1090 i get the correct blacks
when i set it to 1920x1080 or other hd formats its quite dark
i dont know whether its the card or the nvidia card
all settings on the nvidia card are set for 16-235

[dvh99]

i dont think that was/is the issue with mr roco as it wasnt the issue with mine.
i think he had/has a totally unwatchable picture and not just a dark looking image.
1 thing i have learned from this projector that dirty contacts do very strange things and the above mentioned is just 1 of them.
i also had a strange bump in my picture at the top of the picture and cleaning the clm contacts and reseating it a few times to clean the connector of the pj itself made that bump go away.

look at the setting on your moome 422 or 444 sometimes the colour range isnt automatically detected and you have to set it yourself.
imo if all is well you dont need to use the black boost function and dont use the contrast pot of the moome either because it is set at 0,7v (info from moome).

its a shame btw that the moome doesnt have a dvi-dl connection i hope his new models will or maybe there is a possibility to implememnt it on the existing models.

[fishlogan]

first thing i thought it was the color input settings but ive set that right
what i think with my situation is that the hdtv signals, in my case 1080p are seen as hdmi and the other ones ie 1152p, 1090p are seen as dvi resolutions, hence the different black levels between the two

[dvh99]

i dont think that is the case.

try switching between the 2 channels and see if the colour range is set right.
powerstrip and moome do not work flawless thats for sure.

[mp20748]

[dvh99]

once you get it working with the hdmi and moome the pq is way better then using vga out from the videocard, the difference is big to say the least.
i have a atihd4890 and there is lots of noise in the signal with rgbhv out, using dvi out the picture is much better.

i have color space issues once in a while and switching the channels on the moome solves that most of the time.
with my ps3 this problem never occurs so its the pc and powerstrip that is doing something funny.

[fishlogan]

i swapped out my nvidia card to an ati card and the same thing happens.
going with vga corrects it but as dvh99 pointed out, the image is no where near as good
i actually dont use powerstrip with my set up. i get my custom resolutions by the edid overdide for the ati card and with nvidia i use their buit in custom res generator

but i think it is probably the video cards and their drivers. The moome card light panel shows its getting the same colorspace input when i switch between the hdtv resolutions and the non hdtv resolutions and even when i manually select the colorspace input with buttons 4-7 and manually set the black levels with a (16-235) its still gives the dark image for hdtv inputs.