CurtPalme.com Home Theater Forum

linux2 · Joined: 01 Oct 2010 Posts: 31

Hi Everyone,

I just upgraded from a Sony 1020q to this nice NEC 9PG+ today. I'm only having a few problems with it. For some reason it is having the following issues:

1.) If I hit "test" or "static" on the remove, to just run some test patterns the units high pitched noise gets louder, and the image seems to stretch up and down and left to right. Then it blanks out (like it reset) and keeps doing it over and over again. Is there something wrong with one of the boards? If so, which one? I would like to get this unit working soon.

2.) The Video input (S-Video and composite) don't work. It seemingly does nothing. I have been able to get it to work with RGBHV input, but seems a bit over kill for my dvd player.

Any ideas would help... I have yet to converge the unit, but I just want to know if I will have to replace anything first.

Thanks!

linux2 · Joined: 01 Oct 2010 Posts: 31

The problem seems to be that my unit won't work with the svideo or composite input, but I don't know why. It is a 9PG+ unit and I thought it was supposed to have the svideo/composite board... Where is this board located (or what is it actually called) so I can see if I have it or order one for my unit.

Thanks.

Jeremy112 · Joined: 28 Sep 2006 Posts: 2649 Location: Fond du Lac, WI

on the NEC PG Series the only input options available are the ones that are built into the front of the unit.

the S-Video and Composite inputs are right under the RGBHV inputs. you should be able to take your DVD player, hook it up to one of those inputs (If your DVD Player has settings built in to change what signal it outputs such as S-Video or Composite switch it to the one you preffer).

now you MUST have the setup remote for this, if you do not have a setup remote then your SOL. You need to do signal entry using the adjustments button on the remote.

You may come across a screen asking for a password the factory default is: 2580 . Once in the adjustments menu signal entry will be right at the top, select it.

You should see several numbers such as 00 01 02 03 and so on going down the left side of the menu, These are your "inputs". Select a blank area and then follow the menus that follow after that.

On an NEC you have to do signal entry for every input/resolution you use, such as if you have your computer hooked up via RGBHV and then your player with S-Video, you would need to create a new entry for the computer .

I think NEC could have simplified the whole signal deal, but after a while it is pretty easy to use.

Good luck!

CxTurbo · Joined: 13 Oct 2008 Posts: 425 Location: Ontario, Canada

linux2 · Joined: 01 Oct 2010 Posts: 31

Ok, so I did what you said. I hooked up my DVD player. turned it on and plugged the composite video cable into the front of my projector. When creating a new input I set the input source to be "VIDEO". Then when it trys to detect the source it flickers and then says on the "Source Information" screen:

Sync Detect: Auto
G-sync.

Which isn't the composite input. If I plug the composite cable into the "g" of the RGBHV input it spazes out, which tells me it is still trying to use the RGB input.

I'm just lost at how to get this thing to switch over. Is there some hidden menu item or does it just not work on my unit?

linux2 · Joined: 01 Oct 2010 Posts: 31

Also, in the "video mode" area of the "source information" menu it always says "RGB".... not sure why. Is there a way to reset all of the settings on this unit at one time? It is starting to annoy me Wink

Elaine Benes · Joined: 25 Apr 2006 Posts: 1416

You need to have a video board installed in the PG for it to work. *Most* NEC's didn't have the video board installed, in fact, personally, I've owned a lot of NEC's, and only ever had a couple WITH the video board installed.
The video board can be found at the very back of the projector, inside of course, inside the rearmost card cage, I think, in the last slot, if I remember correctly...
Use RGBHV, hook it up to your computer, forget composite/s-video crap.

Also, NEC's MUST have a signal going to them, your internal patterns are ALL synched to the external source, so without a source they'll slam around like crazy trying to synch to a signal that isn't there...

linux2 · Joined: 01 Oct 2010 Posts: 31

Ok cool. I have two "video" boards back there. One with a large black heat sink (that won't seem to slide out) and one behind that. I guess it doesn't seem to support the composite input. So I'm thinking I'm going to grab a NEC Intelligent Switcher System Model ISS-6010 and run everything through that... any reason not to do this?

Also, anyone know where I can get the control cable?

http://cgi.ebay.com/NEC-Intelligent-Switcher-System-Model-ISS-6010-/200525521653?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item2eb040a2f5

**Curt Palme** · Posted: Fri Oct 01, 2010 11:52 pm Post subject:

You don't have the composite video board installed, which is why it's not seeing the signal. The comp/Svideo board is closest to the back panel on the projector, under that metal shield. I'll bet you'll find a blank slot under that metal shield where it's supposed to be.

linux2 · Joined: 01 Oct 2010 Posts: 31

Humm, I see two boards there and no empty slots... perhaps the board is dead or not seated correctly. I'll take them out and look them over and maybe clean them off. The unit is a bit dusty.

Elaine Benes · Joined: 25 Apr 2006 Posts: 1416

If the board is there, you have composite video capability, what happens after you hook up your source, then push 1 on the remote, then wait, then try 2, then wait, then try 3(but I think its 2...).

Seriously, ditch composite and s-video altogether. If you have "plain" video sources, you should be after a line doubler AT LEAST, and more appropriately for that projector, a scaler.

CasetheCorvetteman · Joined: 09 Nov 2008 Posts: 6326 Location: Australia

To get s-video or composite you press 1 on the remote.

It isnt pointless, its quite well worth having it work in some cases, using s-video i can use my gun-con 45s, the gun-con 2s also work, some after market guns work on the Sega Saturn and also the Scorpion 3 light guns work perfectly. They will not work if you connect to the RGBHV input.

The only time ive seen my picture shrink sideways rapidly like that though was when the H-OUT setting was out of whack, my set was all fubar settings wise on the DEF board.

kschmit2 · Posted: Sat Oct 02, 2010 9:17 am Post subject:

the Video board is called the V4DEC PWB. I think I may still have one or two of them here. Not entirely sure though.

kschmit2 · Posted: Sat Oct 02, 2010 9:20 am Post subject:

Jeremy112 · Joined: 28 Sep 2006 Posts: 2649 Location: Fond du Lac, WI

CxTurbo · Joined: 13 Oct 2008 Posts: 425 Location: Ontario, Canada

My 9000 has the point and video board installed. I guess I got lucky also.......... Unless the plus' were different I thought all the 9's came with the Video board installed........ Or was that Point board.

**Curt Palme** · Posted: Sat Oct 02, 2010 3:23 pm Post subject:

Jeremy112 · Joined: 28 Sep 2006 Posts: 2649 Location: Fond du Lac, WI

CxTurbo · Joined: 13 Oct 2008 Posts: 425 Location: Ontario, Canada

Cool, thanks for the confirmation Curt. Just picked up my fourth PG set ( Runco IDP actualy) that you recently rebuilt the boards on 8)

I can relate to the car thing....... See it all day everyday.

CasetheCorvetteman · Joined: 09 Nov 2008 Posts: 6326 Location: Australia

Will you settle for a 1994 with not much stock???...

http://www.vetteweb.com/features/vemp_0807_1994_chevrolet_corvette/index.html

It wasnt much of a car in stock form... Pity Vette magazine couldnt get the facts as i told them, but oh well, what would i know, i only built the damn car....