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[KOI100CHELSEA]

HI THERE, I HOPE SOMEONE HERE CAN ASSIST.

I'M TRYING TO RUN A MITUBISHI XL5U PROJECTOR THRU A SONY DA2400ES AV AMP, IMAGES FROM A PIONEER BDPLX71 BLUERAY PLAYER. THERES A 10M SHIELDED 'NEET' HDMI CABLE LINKING THE TWO. (BLUERAY HIGH SPEED TRANSMISSION IS OFF) HDFURY2 CONNECTED AS ADVISED. BLUERAY HIGH SPEED TRANSMISION IS OFF.

THE ONLY WAY WE CAN GET AN IMAGE TO SHOW THRU THE PROJECTOR IS TO HAVE THE SOURCE IMPUT SET AS 'COMPUTER'. THE ONLY OTHER SOURCE IMPUT OPTIONS AVAILABLE ARE 'VIDEO' WHICH IS BLANK, BLACK SCREEN AND THE ORIGINAL IMPUT SVIDEO HAS BEEN DISCONECTED.

THE QUALITY OF THE IMAGE IS A STUNNING BUT TWO THINGS ARE REALLY ANNOYING AS THEY WERE NOT AN ISSUE BEFORE WHEN CONNECTED VIA SVIDEO (OR IF THEY WERE WE COULD'NT SEE THEM)

1) THE IMAGE IS MADE UP OF QUITE LARGE 2MM SQUARES/PIXELS, THIS DIDN'T SHOW UP PREVIOUSLY BUT IS DISTINCT ESPECIALLY WHEN PLAYING BACK DVD'S WHICH ARE UPSCALED.

2) IN MIDTONE AREAS OF GRAY SHADOW (IE SEMI DARK ROOM OR A NIGHT SHOT) THERE IS VERY OBVIOUS BANDING VERTICALLY, EVERY 3 INCHES DOWN THE PICURE, THE DEEP SHADOWS AND HIGHLIGHTS ARE FINE. (BRIGHNESS IS SET TO +1 AND CONTRAST IS +8) AGAIN THIS WAS'NT NOTICIBLE WITH THE PREVIOUS SVIDEO SETUP.
CAN ANY OF YOU GIVE ME ADVICE ON HOW TO RESOLVE EITHER OF THESE ISSUES.

THE PROBLEMS STILL SHOW UP WHEN RUNNING STRAIGHT FROM THE BLUERAY PLAYER SO I DON'T THINK ITS ANYTHING TO DO WITH THE SONY.

SORRY CAN'T GIVE MUCH TECHNICAL INFO BUT NOT REALLY ALL THAT GOOD ON THINGS LIKE THIS, ACTUALLY AMAZED WE MANAGED TO GET IT SHOWING A PICTURE AT ALL!!

[perisoft]

Unless you're using a Commodore 64, repost that in readable form - that is, without your caps lock hammered down - and I'll try to answer.

[KOI100CHELSEA]

I was'nt aware that typing skills were going to be an issue on this site. Having seen some of the spelling from other users I'm amazed you dont spend your time having a go at them instead of wasting efford replying regarding caps locks on or off.
I think you can still read the question however it is written.
I asked for assistance from other HDfury users who may have had similar problems at some time. Having spent over £200 on getting this converter and cable I want to get the best out of it and assumed this would be the best place for advice.
OBVIOUSLY I WAS WRONG AND SORRY TO HAVE WASTED YOUR VALUBLE TIME WITH MY POOR TYPING SKILLS!!!
ps: no, I'm not using a commodore its a 1999 apple mac G3 and an almost extinct keyboard - sorry I'm not a technophile and equally sorry my husband could'nt deal with this and had dumped the **** in my lap to sort out whilst I'm trying to work at the same time.

[perisoft]

Yes, all-caps is unreadable. Spelling is annoying, but (within reason) usually isn't actually painful to understand.

Other... people... agree... with... me.

Technically I could read it, but it would take rather longer and be extremely unpleasant. And typing in all-caps isn't a skill issue - it's a politeness issue. I don't believe it takes much skill to NOT hit the caps lock key. If I hadn't replied, I'm guessing that nobody would have - and you'd never have known why.

I am, however, indeed sympathetic to your plight vs. your husband. If he wanted to drop the scratch on the HDfury, he should at least take the time to ask for help!

As for your question, if it's an HDFury problem, you should try the HDFury forum. Check the stickies and do a search first before you make a new post - people will appreciate it if you take the time to make sure you've got a novel issue.

[jkruger]

Typing in all caps is considered yelling on most online forums. No one appreciates it.

[ecrabb]

Yeah, lighten up. We're generally a pretty goofy bunch here. Perisoft is just giving you a hard time about the caps, since most people have now known for years that using all caps is poor form and equivalent to screaming, ala "TURN OFF YOUR BLOODY CAPS LOCK KEY, WILL YA?" Besides, it IS really difficult to read. Anyway... Netiquette lectures aside, let's move on to your problems...

Here's a few things...

1) Have you tried running with contrast and brightness set to zero or neutral? Are you using any digital keystone correction? If so, try to set everything you can to zero or neutral to see if it helps. Any "adjustments" can add processing that can cause banding, loss of sharpness, and other image artifacts.

2) If the HD Fury's YUV/RGB switch is set to RGB, then the projector will need to have its "computer" input set to RGB... Sounds like that's how it's set up now. You could also try setting the HD Fury to the "YUV" setting, in which case you'll need to make sure the projector's "computer" input is set to Y,Cb,Cr.

So, try that: Shut off the BD player. Set the HD Fury to YUV instead of RGB. Turn on the BD player. See if you can force the projector's "computer" input to Y,Cb,Cr and get a picture. That may or may not be better than the other way.

3) With an XGA projector like yours, you'll probably want to make sure you BD player is running 720p and not 1080i, but I'd try it both ways and see which way looks better.

4) Oh, and I assume so, but just double-checking... Your HD Fury 2 is from Curtpalme.com, right?

Try a couple of those things and let us know what happens.

SC

[AnalogRocks]

[AnalogRocks]

[KOI100CHELSEA]

Thank you for your help. Its the first time I've used a forum so not used to 'Netiquette' and so was'nt aware I was yelling. Please accept apologies but was rather frustrated at being given this job simply because I use the computer at work.

The Projectors 'computer colour' setting is yuv and so is the hdfury so I'll try changing things over to rgb (it was on rgb with the svideo but defaulted to this when conected). there is keystoning applied. and output from the BD is 1080i.
We brought the hdfury2 from cybershop (Uk Distributer) I believe they're official importers.
Will try out your suggestions if succesfull I'll post results. If all else fails I'll just have to watch the films with my glasses off, - can't see any lines then!!

[KOI100CHELSEA]

to AnalgueRocks - Thankyou, the Projector did have the sharpness set to +4 when using the Svideo imput so I can see how that might not be required as its getting a HD quality imput, I will try reducing it to 'soften' the image. I'll see if there is any reference to 'phase settings' in my set up options.
I don't recall having this banding with the Svideo conection, but I guess the sharper images coupled with the quality of colour and detail from the HDFury2 may well just be bringing an existing issue into clearer view.

I must say that the HDFury2 is a fantastic bit of equipment, the picture colour and clarity are great now if only I could get something that effective to get the husband working better............

[ecrabb]

[Ben851]

I think Analog was referring more to the optical focus and not the digital focus. I may be completely off on this but I'm pretty sure that the electric focus will have little to no effect as the issue is a physical attribute of the LCD panel. Try defocusing (slightly!) the actual lens, that should blur the crosshatch, making the individual pixels flow together better...

[AnalogRocks]

[AnalogRocks]

[KOI100CHELSEA]

Thanks to all of you. I changed the focus just slightly which minimised the crosshatching (you can see it closeup but not really a problem at viewing distance) and Ii changed the setting for the 'computer colour' to RGB which stopped the banding! Only mild glitch is the projector defaults to YUC on startup but I can live with having to reset it.

Wow films look good!

thanks again. xxx

[AnalogRocks]

Great glad you got it going.

You could try setting the side switch on the HDFury2 to YUV then when the projector starts up in YUV the two settings would match.

[AnalogRocks]

Great glad you got it going.

You could try setting the side switch on the HDFury2 to YUV then when the projector starts up in YUV the two settings would match.