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More help with 9500 needed please

 
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sdwmd



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Posted: Thu Sep 03, 2009 12:10 am    Post subject: More help with 9500 needed please

Well, I have my Oppo BDP and DirecTV units plugged into my 9500 LC Ultra via HDMI through Moome card. Just to make sure everything was set up properly from the start, I reinitialized the proj. before doing my calibration. The old scaler that used to be in the loop from the previous owner of the house is now gone from the chain. I have everything outputting 1080p and bypassing the video processing on my onkyo 886. My projected image is WAY bigger than my 8ft wide 1.78 screen 96X54) with a throw distance of 154. The only way I can get the image to be in a proper aspect ratio is to run the geometry sizes at 100% horizontal and 0% vertical. Any other values gives me a vertically stretched image. With those 100/0 size settings, I get nice coverage on the tube faces. Could this have something to do with the need for the marquee anamorpic mod?

With the prior installation using the rock scaler, the only way I could get things to not overshoot the screen was to use a 2.35:1 output ratio and have bars on top and bottom. With this configuration, I assume just a small portion of the tube face was being utilized...and for how many hours with the previous owner I do not know. The Marquee has a total of 2300 hours on it.

Another thing I have noticed is that since the reinitialization and installation of the moome card, I am having trouble maintaining convergence, something that was not an issue before. Overall, this is proving to be an extremely frustrating and complex endeavor and I feel a bit as if I am sinking in quicksand. I have not found anyone in Raleigh that knows how to setup and work on these projectors, but have greatly appreciated all the help from you folks. I guess at this point I can a)throw in the towel, try to sell the marquee and get a jvc d-ila b)buy a scaler and run a small image on the tube face -not terribly interested in this option- or c)move the projector forward and hope nothing breaks on the projector in the short term. What concerns me is that since installing the moome card and reinitializing, after a bit of time the video is dropping out , then returns blurry and rapidly refocuses and drops out again after about 20 seconds. This cycle repeats. I'm loathe to invest much more time and energy into this project and need a bit of guidance from the gurus.

Thanks again.
Scott
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Nashou66



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Posted: Thu Sep 03, 2009 12:23 am    Post subject:

I bet you do need the anamorphic squeeze mod, that is why your vertical is at 0. it should read about 10-12 from my experience, but that also depends on the source.
after an initialization you have to go into Utilities>1>then 3 to unlock or lock that source set up, i bet the source set up location is locked now and you need to unlock it, do your set up then lock it again.

I wish I was closer to give you a hand, i hate when people give up on CRT. Just keep at a little each day and relax, one day it will click.

Athanasios

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sdwmd



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Posted: Thu Sep 03, 2009 12:41 am    Post subject:

Thanks for the encouraging words. I do wonder if running the moome card has put a load on something somewhere and that's why the picture is cutting out. Setup is unlocked by the way.
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Posted: Thu Sep 03, 2009 1:48 pm    Post subject:

There is a member in NC called Dropzone, not sure how far away tho, they have a NEC PJ but I am sure they could help you out somewhat.

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dropzone7



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Posted: Thu Sep 03, 2009 3:56 pm    Post subject:

Well, I know zero about Marquees so I'm not sure how much help I would be. Ken Whitcomb is coming through the area in the next few weeks so you might want to give him a try if you want a pro's help. I think about all I could do is provide moral support. I'm probably 3 hours away too but if you get desperate I might be able to make a road trip one Saturday. Two heads are better than one sometimes, even if neither knows exactly what they are doing.
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sdwmd



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Posted: Thu Sep 03, 2009 4:08 pm    Post subject:

Ken is coming through the NC area? I'd love to have a pro's help and would be happy to pay for those services. Do you know how to get in touch with him? I'd really like to get this thing running well if I could. Thanks very much for the assistance. I sent you a PM as well.
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dropzone7



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Posted: Thu Sep 03, 2009 4:21 pm    Post subject:

Scott, I just sent you a PM.
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draganm



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Posted: Thu Sep 03, 2009 5:00 pm    Post subject: Re: More help with 9500 needed please

As Athan mentioned you need the anamorphic modification, I do that as part of the HD mod's packagee if you chooose to persue this project.
but this part isn't normal
sdwmd wrote:
What concerns me is that since installing the moome card and reinitializing, after a bit of time the video is dropping out , then returns blurry and rapidly refocuses and drops out again after about 20 seconds. This cycle repeats. I'm loathe to invest much more time and energy into this project and need a bit of guidance from the gurus.
Scott
A friends 8500LC was doing this locally and it turned out to the high voltage power supply. It's impossible to say for sure over the internet though, I ideally parts from your machine should be tested in another chassis. A HVPS just sold on flea-bay for $75 but it looks like your selling your 9500 to someone in China so never mind Confused
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Nashou66



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Posted: Thu Sep 03, 2009 5:43 pm    Post subject:

Scott i would take your auction down till you at least have someone look at it, either ken or someone near by. I am sure we can get her going. It might be a HVPS or a bad Neck board causing the HVPS to go down and back up again.

Athanasios

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sdwmd



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Posted: Thu Sep 03, 2009 6:35 pm    Post subject:

I'd love to use it, but my inoperable theater room is literally driving me crazy. It has consumed me...I can't stand having all this gear sitting rendered impotent by the one piece of equipment in the room that I didn't buy myself. Lol on the China bit. I did have it listed a while back during my initial run of frustrations with the projector. I cancelled the original listing after I decided to go for broke and buy the Moome card. The last straw was me paying a local audio installer's CRT man to come out and help. Needless to say, I have not gotten very far as he is not terribly familiar with the unit. If anyone knows someone who can help me get it straight then I would be more than pleased. I am happy to pay for whatever it takes and I appreciate all the time you folks have given me dealing with these issues. I will note that it worked fine with BNC connections and upscaled past 1080 without an issue even though the image size wasn't right for the screen. Small HV splitter leak was fixed with repositioning the splitter per guidelines. Now with the HDMI card I worry also about the power supply and any additional draw the card might be exacting on it.
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Posted: Thu Sep 03, 2009 6:55 pm    Post subject:

The card should not be a problem with power draw. It most likely is just a simple set up issue. If the image goes over the edge of the tube face at all it could cause problems but usually it overheats the tube and POP!!!!. I don't think that is the problem though. Marquees are easy to diagnose problems but only if you have another set of boards that are known to be good. But one thing that I have found out is a good cleaning of all the boards contacts and removable chips will fix most problems.

If ken isn't going to be in your area soon maybe i could try to get down there on a Wednesday some time as its my sorta day off, owning a restaurant makes it very difficult to take some time off.

Athanasios

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Posted: Thu Sep 03, 2009 11:14 pm    Post subject:

sdwmd wrote:
Now with the HDMI card I worry also about the power supply and any additional draw the card might be exacting on it.
I highly doubt it s drawing power and causing problems. Remember that expansion slot is designed to operate optional cards from the factory so any additional power draw was designed into the chassis. If you can get Nash to come down from New York it will probably get sorted out quickly.
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sdwmd



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Posted: Thu Sep 03, 2009 11:47 pm    Post subject:

PM sent to Nash. That would be out of this world if he could help. I don't really want to have to get that behemoth off the ceiling anyway.
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Posted: Fri Sep 04, 2009 12:14 am    Post subject:

sdwmd wrote:
PM sent to Nash. That would be out of this world if he could help. I don't really want to have to get that behemoth off the ceiling anyway.


Got you PM, I'll see if I can swing it on one of the next three wednesday's. No flights in early and out late, it be nice if I could get there around noonish, then leave after i get done and I figured 7 or 8 pm flight out. how far are from the Duram airport?

Athanasios

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Posted: Fri Sep 04, 2009 3:52 pm    Post subject:

Nashou66 wrote:
Got you PM, I'll see if I can swing it on one of the next three wednesday's. No flights in early and out late, it be nice if I could get there around noonish, then leave after i get done and I figured 7 or 8 pm flight out. how far are from the Duram airport?

Athanasios
i'de give yourself more time than that. Chances are good that machine needs to move forward a foot or 2?
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Posted: Mon Sep 28, 2009 9:45 pm    Post subject:

did anyone ever manage to go down and help this guy out or is that his 9500 being parted out on flea-bay?
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Posted: Mon Sep 28, 2009 9:52 pm    Post subject:

Drags I called him on the phone and helped him out some, he was super happy to just be able to get memory channels set up. he told me he was going to take it off E-bay but it ended up selling for 1525, not sure what he did after though or if it went through since i think the buyer was from Taiwan or someplace over there.
i think the biggest problem was him not being able to squeeze down the image for 1.78 material, that PJ needed the anamorphic squeeze mod and I don't think he wanted to take apart the back heat sink to send it out to be done. I should PM him over on AVS.

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stefuel



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Posted: Tue Sep 29, 2009 12:05 am    Post subject:

Who cares? It's only a Marquee and not worthy of Stanley the power drill Mr. Green
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Posted: Tue Sep 29, 2009 12:21 am    Post subject:

That's too bad, not many people have the perseverance to see one of these projects through. there's that guy 40 minutes from me who I never heard back from either about his 8000? Maybe he bought a HVPS from curt but more likely he just went and got that cheap 1080 DLP he was talking about.
It's a shame really, the anamoprohic mod takes like 15 minutes to do and that includes setting up the soldering station.

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