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jetty
Joined: 07 Aug 2009 Posts: 35
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| Posted: Mon Aug 31, 2009 12:35 am Post subject: image centering on 9pg xtra |
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I can't seem to get the image centered in the raster. You can see the area on the right hand side. When I use the POSITION control the image rolls around behind itself, it won't go any further into that dark green area (same in the other 2 tubes). I tried the amplitude and linearity just to see if that had any effect, but it didn't. Any ideas?
Thanks.
Last edited by jetty on Fri Sep 04, 2009 8:34 pm; edited 2 times in total
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Tim in Phoenix
Joined: 21 Oct 2006 Posts: 4409 Location: Phoenix
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Hello
What model projector? Centering can probably be done with green convergence, but best if centering is done with the tube magnets with convergence nulled; this is the least load on the convergence circuits and is true for all three colors.
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Mr. Green
Joined: 23 Feb 2007 Posts: 1394 Location: Calgary
TV/Projector: Marquee 9501LC / NEC 9PG+
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Throw up a cross hair "+" and measure the distance on all 4 sides to the edge of the tube to see if the "+" is centered, I doubt it is. As Tim says, if that's the case use the magnets. I did it on my NEC 9PG+ and it was easy to do. Curt set up my Marquee, so I don't know how tough it is to get to the magnets.
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Current Projector Marquee9501LC with PS3 (BLu-Ray) at 1080P LOVE IT! Screen is an Elunevision 120" 4:3 (2.4 gain - no hotspots). (also own a NEC 9PG+)
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jetty
Joined: 07 Aug 2009 Posts: 35
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I keep forgetting the model. It's the 9pg+. I'll try it later tonight or maybe tomorrow and will let you know how it works. Thanks again.
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Mark_A_W
Joined: 15 Mar 2006 Posts: 3068 Location: Sunny Melbourne Australia
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You need to adjust the porch pixels in the source, there aren't enough porch pixels for retrace, or they are all on one side - the roll around is the give away.
Of coarse, you have a proper source, like a Video Processor or a PC, don't you?
This is not a raster centering issue, this is an image centering issue.
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jetty
Joined: 07 Aug 2009 Posts: 35
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I don't have either Mark. As far as a VP, what's the least I need without spending too much?
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Mark_A_W
Joined: 15 Mar 2006 Posts: 3068 Location: Sunny Melbourne Australia
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Well what is your source now?
I think some Moome products or box1020 type stuff can move the image, but I don't know if that will be enough. You really need more porch pixels.
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jetty
Joined: 07 Aug 2009 Posts: 35
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right now I've got blu ray > hdmi > hdfury2 > rgb
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Mark_A_W
Joined: 15 Mar 2006 Posts: 3068 Location: Sunny Melbourne Australia
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1080i or 1080p?
Try 1080i.
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jetty
Joined: 07 Aug 2009 Posts: 35
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It's on 1080i
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jcmccorm
Joined: 15 Jan 2008 Posts: 21
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Don't know if you want to add an amp to your signal path, but the old Extron RGB amps (202Plus?) has both a horizontal and vertical centering knob. I used to use one with my Marquee to center the image on the raster. Worked like a champ. I later used an HTPC and was then able to adjust the image centering with software.
Cary
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macgyver655
Joined: 22 Aug 2007 Posts: 8508
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Have you checked and adjusted and saved the phase for each entry?
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jetty
Joined: 07 Aug 2009 Posts: 35
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Phase didn't help.
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Mark_A_W
Joined: 15 Mar 2006 Posts: 3068 Location: Sunny Melbourne Australia
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Long shot...
Blanking is all the way out?
1080i should work.
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jetty
Joined: 07 Aug 2009 Posts: 35
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Blanking should be 100%, correct? I will check when I get home. The player is showing 1080i out.
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jetty
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Blanking all the way out. 1080i on both hd and blu players.
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jetty
Joined: 07 Aug 2009 Posts: 35
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From what I've read the last couple of days is that 1080i should be no problem. This problem mostly occurs when you try to feed it 1080p. Does that seem correct? Anyone with a 9pg xtra?
edit: I just re-read one of my last post. I have a Runco 980 ultra = 9pg xtra.
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jetty
Joined: 07 Aug 2009 Posts: 35
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I hooked up my cable box > hdmi > hdfury2 > rgb and fed it 480i. Deleted the signal entry and made a new one and zeroed everything out. Tried all the adjustments and I still have this band on all the tubes. In fact, when I turn the projector on and before the player or cable box sync I can see this banding. Did I mess up something else when I took the tubes out to bleed?
Any other ideas what could be wrong?
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macgyver655
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I hate to bring this up but you didnt turn any pots on the deflection board, did you?
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jetty
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Have not messed with any of the pots. The only thing I've touched is the green focus on the system board(?).
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