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Little green problem?

 
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Thor



Joined: 09 May 2007
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Location: Denmark

Posted: Fri May 01, 2009 9:27 am    Post subject: Little green problem?

And it's not with the little green men from Mars, I have living in my backyard!

On my 9500LC Ultra, on the green tube from the middle of the image and to the bottom, the rasterlines are increasingly getting thicker.

So I can't get the bottom half of the image as sharp as the top half. Most times it's not that noticeable, but we watch a lot of movies with subtitles, and it clear that the subtitles are somewhat unsharp.

I have spend many hours with the 2 poled flare ring and the magnetic coil and the stigmator menu, and followed every procedure, incl. Bill Blue, from this site, but I just can't get it right. The blue and red are fine.

I have titled the back of the PJ up about ½ inch, but that should't be a problem?

Do I need new flare rings, maybe 6 poled, would that do anything?

Any suggestions are welcome, thanks

Morten.

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Elaine Benes



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Posted: Fri May 01, 2009 12:18 pm    Post subject:

Did you verify your scheimpfluge setup is done very well ? Sounds more like a sheimpfluge issue to me if it is only one quadrant of the screen...Or is it mirrored on the tubeface when you look at it through the lens ?
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Nashou66



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Posted: Fri May 01, 2009 12:44 pm    Post subject:

first thing i would do is swap the green focus connector on the fcm to the red connector to see if the problem goes to the red tube. if it does
then its the fcm board if not it could be the focus coil , the VNB on the greeen tube or the tube it self.

Athanasios

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Thor



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Posted: Fri May 01, 2009 2:07 pm    Post subject:

Elaine Benes wrote:
Did you verify your scheimpfluge setup is done very well ? Sounds more like a sheimpfluge issue to me if it is only one quadrant of the screen...Or is it mirrored on the tubeface when you look at it through the lens ?


I thought a first it was a sheimpfluge problem, so I worked a long time with that without success. It's very hard to tell when I look through the lenses, if is doing it on the CRT face. Can it be a problem with the lens itself? I can try swapping them, and see it that changes anything??

Athanasios:

I have just tried to do as you said, but it didn't change anything.

But, I can see now that my first description of the problem wasn't quite accurate. The lines doesn't get thicker them self, but there comes a shadow of the line beneath it, that gets thicker further down the image?
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Nashou66



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Posted: Fri May 01, 2009 2:38 pm    Post subject:

Try a different VNB on the Green and see if it moves, it could be a slight vertical streaking. Also is that grid pattern from and internal source? put up an external pattern and see if it is the same... I am just curious.

Athanasios

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draganm



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Posted: Fri May 01, 2009 9:14 pm    Post subject:

Thor wrote:

But, I can see now that my first description of the problem wasn't quite accurate. The lines doesn't get thicker them self, but there comes a shadow of the line beneath it, that gets thicker further down the image?
sounds like a streaking problem, either from the neck-board or possibly deflection circuitry.
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Thor



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Posted: Tue May 05, 2009 6:58 am    Post subject:

Hi Guys,

It turned out to be a lens problem, and an embarrassing one too. Embarassed It turned out that I somehow have calculated the distance from screen to projector all wrong. I don't know how, but I have ended up placing the PJ too far back to get the GT-17's focusing right. (132" from screen to foot of PJ)

So I tried to put the old regular HD10 on I have, and now the shadow line have disappeared, and over all sharpness looks better. Very Happy

But now my black has turned grey Shocked When I see very dark scenes the black is somewhat okay, but in very bright scenes, the 1:2.35 bars on the 16:9 and other black things in the image turns brighter. It's like the light from the image washes out the black. Is this perhaps due the "poor" quality of the regular HD10's?
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draganm



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Posted: Tue May 05, 2009 6:49 pm    Post subject:

Thor wrote:
But now my black has turned grey Shocked When I see very dark scenes the black is somewhat okay, but in very bright scenes, the 1:2.35 bars on the 16:9 and other black things in the image turns brighter. It's like the light from the image washes out the black. Is this perhaps due the "poor" quality of the regular HD10's?
some of this is inherent to CRT, but LC really helps to reduce it. IT can also be an electronics issue, I have seen an improvement in ANSI contrast with modified/upgraded electronics in a Marquee.
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Thor



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Posted: Sun May 10, 2009 2:03 pm    Post subject:

If I want same quality lenses as the GT-17's, but with the focus range as standard HD10's, what should I look for?
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