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emdawgz1
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| Posted: Fri Mar 27, 2009 4:40 pm Post subject: HDMI 1.3....Is it a hardware upgrade??? |
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Dumb question.. is the upgrade to 1.3 a difference in the actual connector or is it a software issue?
Can i upgrade my bdp s1 to hdmi 1.3???
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emdawgz1
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| Posted: Fri Mar 27, 2009 7:06 pm Post subject: |
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| kal wrote: | No.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sony_BDP-S1
"The supplied HDMI connection is version 1.2 and does not support Deep Color or Bitstream out for Dolby Digital Plus, Dolby TrueHD, DTS-HD and DTS-HD Master Audio. This feature is not capable of being added later."
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Considering what i paid for it..... that's really disappointing.
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| Posted: Fri Mar 27, 2009 7:27 pm Post subject: |
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Ain't it fun being an early adopter?
I wouldn't worry too much about the Deep Color, since there's still no content that will take advantage of it (at least at the source device). The bitstreaming is definitely a bummer, but unless you're going to pick up a new AVR or processor with advanced audio, no biggie there, either. When you do, you'll probably want a better BD player, anyway.  Just put the BDP-S1 in your bedroom or living room and get a new player when you're ready to upgrade the AVR/processor.
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emdawgz1
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| Posted: Fri Mar 27, 2009 7:35 pm Post subject: |
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| ecrabb wrote: | Ain't it fun being an early adopter?
I wouldn't worry too much about the Deep Color, since there's still no content that will take advantage of it (at least at the source device). The bitstreaming is definitely a bummer, but unless you're going to pick up a new AVR or processor with advanced audio, no biggie there, either. When you do, you'll probably want a better BD player, anyway. Just put the BDP-S1 in your bedroom or living room and get a new player when you're ready to upgrade the AVR/processor.
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Yup you are right. I need to stop looking at the shiny new B/R players.... 
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The wiki does say that with the right firmware it will internally decode Dolby True HD. I assume it would operate like the PS3 and send multi-channel LPCM to a receiver capable of accepting that. Maybe if it has enough horspower under the hood it can in the future decode and send DTS-MA as well.
Apparently HDML 1.2 cannot bitstream the higher res audio, also a limitation of the PS3. But with the right AVR that can accept multi-channel LPCM does it matter?
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From what I was reading, the PS3 actually is HDMI 1.3... The audio shortcoming is due to some other limitation...  If you read this page:
http://www.us.playstation.com/PS3/Features/BluRayMovies
A footnote says:
| Quote: | | A device compatible with Linear PCM 7.1 Ch. is required to output 7.1 Ch. audio, supported by Dolby TrueHD or a similar format, from the HDMI OUT connector. This system does not support output from the DTS-HD 7.1 Ch. DTS-HD 7.1 Ch. audio is output from a 5.1 or lower channel. |
So, the way I'm reading that is that you can output 7.1 from the PS3, but only as LPCM, and not as a DTS-HD 7.1 bitstream, right? If you DO output as a bitstream, I wonder what happens... Dropped channel? Bad stream/no audio? Downmix? I thought I ran it that way... Hell, it might actually be set up that way now. Damn, this stuff if complicated compared to the "old days"...
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From what I have read the PS3s are limited by Sony's choice of HDMI chip. One forum said it was a Silicon Image HDMI chipset SiI 9132 which supposedly is not capable of bitstrreaming the hi-res audio. Researching this leads to contradictory findings though.
Other sources indicate the hardware limitation as well.
http://formatwarcentral.com/2007/05/08/does-the-ps3-really-have-hdmi-13/
Maybe the newer models have newer hardware?
Not that I don't believe you, but where did you get your info? I have a PS3 so I would love to hear this news.
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