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**Curt Palme**

Other than Runco adding the C elements and a black case, is there any differences between these three models?

Thanks!

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**kal** · Posted: Fri Mar 13, 2009 3:39 pm Post subject:

What do you mean by "Runco adding c-elements"? All 3 have to have c-elements. All three even have tinted Green and Red c-element too I think.

Kal

**Curt Palme** · Posted: Fri Mar 13, 2009 3:46 pm Post subject:

I meant colored C elements. Smile

r.bauer · Joined: 08 Apr 2006 Posts: 280 Location: The Netherlands

Differences:
- Sound level and cooling method. The Cine9 is much quieter than a 909. The 909 has a fan on the hor-defl board that makes a lot of noise when it starts spinning when the temperature rises above a certain threshold.
- The Cine9 has an aluminium plate behind the fans to lower the sound level
- Max hor scanrate. the Cine9 is limited to 135khz while the 909 scans all the way up to 180khz.
- Cine9 has the limo-pro onboard, thus enabling the Video and S-video inputs. On the 909 the video and S-video inputs do not work as the minimum scanrate is 32khz.
- I don't know if the configuration changes are done only in software.

**kal** · Posted: Fri Mar 13, 2009 4:48 pm Post subject:

Curt: The Cine series brochure here states that the Cine 7/8/9 are all colour filtered (not to be confused with colour corrected): http://www.curtpalme.com/docs/BarcoCineSeries_Brochure.pdf

Reiner: You sure that the Cine9 is bandwidth limited to 135Mhz? The Cine 9 brochure here says it's 180Mhz: http://www.curtpalme.com/docs/BarcoCine9_Brochure.pdf
(As does the previous Cine series brochure listed above).

Kal

**Curt Palme** · Posted: Fri Mar 13, 2009 5:00 pm Post subject:

I really need to slow down and read the website one day:)

Thanks Kal!

Ile · Posted: Fri Mar 13, 2009 7:30 pm Post subject:

**kal** · Posted: Fri Mar 13, 2009 9:03 pm Post subject:

Oops! Sorry - you're right Ile. I read that too fast. Both are 180Mhz *bandwidth* but the Cine9 is scanrate limited to 135Khz (which is already way beyond anything we'd ever use).

Hell, my Zenith 1200 is scanrate limited to 75Khz through software but the electronics could happily do 120KHz if they were allowed to (like a regular Cine 8 Onyx it's based on). I've never had it higher than 1080p/60 which is only 68Khz!

135Khz would let you do over 2100p/60! 180Khz is enough to do almost 2900p/60! Insane.

Makes sense that the 909 isn't colour filtered since correct colour reproduction isn't the most important factor: Light output is.

Kal

km987654 · Posted: Fri Mar 13, 2009 11:15 pm Post subject:

Imagine. You could spend $10000USD on a 909 and not have colour corrected C elements!!

**kal** · Posted: Sat Mar 14, 2009 9:29 pm Post subject:

Yup. But $200 or so later you'd have them. Assuming you're comfortable with the advanced work required to change them.

Kal

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I wouldn't take 500$ for my set, I don't see ever needing to get rid of them anyway, they fit LUG's and are the end of the line no matter the PJ!! Smile

-Gary

kschmit2 · Posted: Sun Mar 15, 2009 9:28 am Post subject: