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perisoft
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| Posted: Sat Jan 31, 2009 6:07 pm Post subject: Is an LCD Barco just one of these with training wheels? |
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Saw this just now on a semi-local CL:
http://rochester.craigslist.org/ele/1010534905.html
 
I'm guessing that's a REALLY vintage LCD PJ of some kind - given the size, and the fact that it has a 'crt bump' toward the front! No reason for that in a digital PJ; I guess they put it there to make business customers used to CRTs feel warm and fuzzy... 
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AnalogRocks
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That's a light valve isn't it?
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Zebu Fellenz
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That looks like fun!
Anyone have specs on this monster?
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MikeEby
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It looks like it had meticulous care and was stored in perfect environment.
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perisoft
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No idea, but my guess would be anywhere from 640x480 to 1024x768 and maybe 2000 lumens, with 300:1 ansi. I'd be all over that if it was free and I had time and there was some assurance that it generates some kind of image! 
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Zebu Fellenz
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Looks like an Ampro Alice series projector.
http://www.aboutprojectors.com/AmPro-Alice-5200-projector.html
http://www.walvisions.com/ArchivePages/walvisions__ampro_alice5000_brochure.htm
AmPro Alice 5200 DLP Projector Information
Manufacturer AmPro
Manufacturer Part # Alice 5200
MSRP $54,995.00
Production Status Out of Production
AmPro Alice 5200 DLP Projector
Aspect Ratio 4:3 (Native) 5:4
Brightness (ANSI Lumens) 2500 ANSI Lumens
Contrast Ratio 250:1
Display Type DLP
Resolution (Native / Max) XGA (1024 x 768)
SXGA (1280 x 1024)
Video Compatibility NTSC, PAL, SECAM
Number of Colors 16.7 Million Colors
Size Dimensions (WxHxD) 29.0in. x 11.7in. x 32in.
(73.66cm x 29.72cm x 81.28cm)
Weight 81.6 lbs. (37.01 kg)
Connectivity Inputs 1 x S-Video
Control 1 x RS-232C
Operation Power Supply 85 ~ 240 V / 50 ~ 60 Hz
Power Consumption 1200W
Approvals CE, FCC, UL
Audible Noise 42 dB
Operating Temperature 50°F ~ 104°F (10°C ~ 40°C)
Storage Temperature 32°F ~ 150°F (0°C ~ 66°C)
Projection Lens Lamp Type 500W Xenon
Lamp Life 1000 hrs
Projection Distance 3.9ft. ~ 52.5ft. (1.19m ~ 16m)
Projection Mode Front, Ceiling
Other Dot Clock 233 MHz
H-Sync Range 15 ~ 75 kHz
V-Sync Range 30 ~ 120 Hz
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Zebu Fellenz
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| perisoft wrote: | | No idea, but my guess would be anywhere from 640x480 to 1024x768 and maybe 2000 lumens, with 300:1 ansi. I'd be all over that if it was free and I had time and there was some assurance that it generates some kind of image! |
Have you called the guy up to see what he knows about it?
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Nashou66
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MikeEby
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WOW at $54K the bulb was probably $3K and considered a bargin.
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perisoft
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| Zebu Fellenz wrote: | | perisoft wrote: | | No idea, but my guess would be anywhere from 640x480 to 1024x768 and maybe 2000 lumens, with 300:1 ansi. I'd be all over that if it was free and I had time and there was some assurance that it generates some kind of image! |
Have you called the guy up to see what he knows about it? |
Hell no. I've got a bunch of digitals already, and I don't need a huge one that'll probably blow its bulb in 100 hours to add to the pile. At least the little ones I can do fun things with. If it was 10,000 lumens I'd probably go for it, though...
In other news, with regards to my estimates of specifications based only on size and case appearance, I would like to say - who called it?!!? 
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Curt Palme
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THe Alice was a very cool projector, way ahead of it's time, and someone might want to grab it as a historical piece. 
Apparently though, they were unreliable (say it isn't so!) and Ampro put a sh#tload if R&D into the unit. It more or less killed them from what I understand.
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Zebu Fellenz
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| Curt Palme wrote: | THe Alice was a very cool projector, way ahead of it's time, and someone might want to grab it as a historical piece.
Apparently though, they were unreliable (say it isn't so!) and Ampro put a sh#tload if R&D into the unit. It more or less killed them from what I understand. |
Don't tempt me damn it 
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Oh c'mon, no one is going to call this guy. Offer $50, I'll bet you'll get it.
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Angus_rg
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| Curt Palme wrote: | | Oh c'mon, no one is going to call this guy. Offer $50, I'll bet you'll get it. |
Considering the size, you might be able to take it so he doesn't have to dispose of it. I'd give him your number and say, when you get sick of looking at it, call me.
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CasetheCorvetteman
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| Angus_rg wrote: | | Curt Palme wrote: | | Oh c'mon, no one is going to call this guy. Offer $50, I'll bet you'll get it. |
Considering the size, you might be able to take it so he doesn't have to dispose of it. I'd give him your number and say, when you get sick of looking at it, call me. |
Yep, at the weight its listed as there, its heavier than my Sony CRT projector, if it had to be taken to a dump, it wouldnt be free here, and it wouldnt fit in a household rubish bin.
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cmjohnson
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I didn't see the original article, it's expired. But if it's an AmPro Alice, it's a 3 chip DLP unit, in either 800x600 or 1280x1024 resolution.
ASSUMING it's totally operational, it won't impress you much by modern standards but they were quite good in their day. Their weak link is that they were built with an onboard PC for controlling it and also running, for example, your PowerPoint slideshow internally. That PC was a fast 486 or early Pentium machine. If you had a hard drive crash you'd be very hard pressed to get replacement operating software.
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