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scir16v
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| Posted: Fri Jan 02, 2009 5:54 am Post subject: newb with ECP-4101 |
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I'm sorot of a newb when it comes to crt's. My dad had 2 crt's before. a heathkit and a zenith pro851. I now have jumped into the ct foray with an electrohome ecp 4101.
I've been reading curt's front website and other sites about setting up crt's.
There are a couple of things I'm a little foggy with. I don't really understand the scheimpflug adjustments. And I have a composite board for one of the inputs.
The composite board p/n 50-1885-03p It has 4 bnc connections for video. 2 for one input and 2 for another.
Are they connections a pass-thru, or are they some sort of split video input?
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Welcome to the website!
Got a picture?
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| scir16v wrote: | I'm sorot of a newb when it comes to crt's. My dad had 2 crt's before. a heathkit and a zenith pro851. I now have jumped into the ct foray with an electrohome ecp 4101.
I've been reading curt's front website and other sites about setting up crt's.
There are a couple of things I'm a little foggy with. I don't really understand the scheimpflug adjustments. And I have a composite board for one of the inputs.
The composite board p/n 50-1885-03p It has 4 bnc connections for video. 2 for one input and 2 for another.
Are they connections a pass-thru, or are they some sort of split video input? |
Sheimpy is an adjustment that moves the lens body relative to the tube face, making them (intentionally) non-perpendicular. This helps compensate for projection angle effects that can make the corner focus inconsistent from corner to corner.
The composite input is either pass-thru (in which case it would have a terminator switch, jumper, or require 75 ohm BNC terminators) OR it is possible that it's both composite and S-Video (Y/C.)
In either case, don't waste your time... the 4101 will do 1080i HD happily... An HDFury2 will get you an HDMI input.
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scir16v
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I know it will do 1080i. I plan to get an hdfury soon. But until then I'm not getting any picture because I don't know if the board is an actual composite input board. It does not have and s-video inputs on it. just 4 bnc.
2 bnc connectors go to input 1 and 2 bnc'c go to input 2. And it has at the top "multi standard decoder" and I'm not getting any feed from the digital converter box. And as of right now I don't have type of source for the rgbhv input.
I can get the on screen menu's and convergence grid. but it flickers. I've read here and other places the ecp's flicker when no signal is present.
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Heywood Jablome
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S-video is two conductors Y,C) plus a ground IIRC, and broadcast grade stuff occasionally has them represented with 2 BNCs rather than the consumer-grade four pin mini-DIN connector.
If it IS composite with pass-thry, you need a terminator on the pass-thru, or you need to set the 'high-Z' switch (or jumper, assuming there IS one.)
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AnalogRocks
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Again fire us off a picture if you can
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scir16v
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That's the card in question. the rca connections are for audio. 2 audio inputs and an output.
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AnalogRocks
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ASK Curt he may have a RGBHV card to sell you.
For now if that is a Svideo card you can use a cable like this to get you a picture:
http://www.l-com.com/productfamily.aspx?id=597
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scir16v
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It has the rgbhv input card. I just wanted to know what type of input this card was. thank you for the replies. I know I'll be on here quite a bit.
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AnalogRocks
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| scir16v wrote: | | It has the rgbhv input card. I just wanted to know what type of input this card was. thank you for the replies. I know I'll be on here quite a bit. |
Ohhhh My Googling gun came up dry. Ask Curt directly he's probably seen one.
Then get yourself a PC and a VGA to RGBHV breakout cable and start watching DVD's on it at 800x600 or 1024x768.
Once you figure out how to setup and align it that is.
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| Nashou66 wrote: | | scir16v wrote: | | It has the rgbhv input card. I just wanted to know what type of input this card was. thank you for the replies. I know I'll be on here quite a bit. |
it gets addicting!!
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Interesting, you guys in Buffalo say addicting? We say adictive.
Personaly I say expensive 
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| AnalogRocks wrote: | | Nashou66 wrote: | | scir16v wrote: | | It has the rgbhv input card. I just wanted to know what type of input this card was. thank you for the replies. I know I'll be on here quite a bit. |
it gets addicting!!
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Interesting, you guys in Buffalo say addicting? We say adictive.
Personaly I say expensive |
I say it both ways...depends on my mood 
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Next question.
I've been researching quite a bit on here and avs forums about ecp's. I've come to a bump in the road of getting ready to start setting this monster up. I read in the service manual that an extender board is required in order to set the pj up. At least it seems that way for some of the settings.
Does anyone have one of these, or can I get by without it?
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| scir16v wrote: | Next question.
I've been researching quite a bit on here and avs forums about ecp's. I've come to a bump in the road of getting ready to start setting this monster up. I read in the service manual that an extender board is required in order to set the pj up. At least it seems that way for some of the settings.
Does anyone have one of these, or can I get by without it? |
You don't need an extender board. That's just for diagnostics when it goes (((poof)))
Get a signal going into the projector. Set it up by looking into the lenses, centre the signal side to side and expand the width untill it's withing 3/8" from the tube edge on each side. Then slide the projector forward and backward untill it fit's your screen stick with a 7 foot wide screen or smalled and it'll give you a much nicer picture
Then get the projector squared up with the screen parallel.
THEN follow the projector's set up manual and see where that gets you...
Good luck.
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