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CRT part numbering explained, courtesy of Sencore

 
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Heywood Jablome



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Posted: Sun Apr 06, 2008 9:01 pm    Post subject: CRT part numbering explained, courtesy of Sencore

While this does not explicitly list our P prefixed tubes, it's easy to imagine that the P is for "projection."


http://www.sencore.com/custsup/pdf/TT145.pdf

The CRT theory is not all that interesting, and describes a direct-view tube, but page 2 and three contains "Understanding CRT numbers"

Excerpted:

WTDS Standard
Since April 1, 1982, a new system for
categorizing and numbering CRTs has
been in use. This system is officially called
Worldwide Type Designation System
(WTDS) for TV picture tubes and monitor
tubes. Until the adoption of this system,
American, Japanese, and European tube
manufacturers had all numbered their
tubes differently. This has led to confusion
and incomplete or inaccurate information in
the past. The new WTDS numbering is an
effort to simplify and unify CRT designations.

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front_range



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Posted: Sun Apr 06, 2008 10:54 pm    Post subject:

So if I read that correctly, P16 refers to a diagonal size of a tad bit over 6", but P16 tubes come in some sets that are rated as 7" CRT sets as well as some that are rated as 8" sets??
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Mark_A_W



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Posted: Sun Apr 06, 2008 11:12 pm    Post subject:

P16 refers to 160mm diagonal.

The world is metric.

7"/8"/9" are just some archaic descriptions from the 16th century, and bear no resemblance to reality.

Even Liberia and Burma are now metric.

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Posted: Sun Apr 06, 2008 11:29 pm    Post subject:

Ya but, whip out my big 200mm just doesn't cut it for me. Laughing
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Heywood Jablome



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Posted: Sun Apr 06, 2008 11:37 pm    Post subject:

I'm a mechanical engineer by training, and can think transparently in base-10 metric as easily as base-thumb English Smile
Yeah, P16 means 16cm, 160mm, and the actual conversion is 6.3" (approximately.)

This standard has been alluded to here and at AVS, but I've never read it formally laid down as this Sencore document states.

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front_range



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Posted: Mon Apr 07, 2008 12:00 am    Post subject:

My point is that it's rather arbitrary to refer to some sets as 7" vs others as 8" when the phosphor area is the same by the CRT vendor's spec.
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Tom.W



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Posted: Mon Apr 07, 2008 1:07 am    Post subject:

More Sencore tech tips... Wink

http://www.sencore.com/custsup/techtips.htm
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MikeEby



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Posted: Mon Apr 07, 2008 1:17 am    Post subject:

Mark_A_W wrote:
P16 refers to 160mm diagonal.

The world is metric.

7"/8"/9" are just some archaic descriptions from the 16th century, and bear no resemblance to reality.

Even Liberia and Burma are now metric.

Catch up Wink



ROFL Smile

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Mark_A_W



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Posted: Mon Apr 07, 2008 2:13 am    Post subject:

front_range wrote:
My point is that it's rather arbitrary to refer to some sets as 7" vs others as 8" when the phosphor area is the same by the CRT vendor's spec.


It gets even murkier when NEC describe a PG Xtra as a 7"er, and Sony describe a G70 as an 8"er....when the green tube is IDENTICAL (and the red and blue are the same face size).

The size in inches is a pure marketing number.
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Heywood Jablome



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Posted: Mon Apr 07, 2008 11:44 am    Post subject:

front_range wrote:
My point is that it's rather arbitrary to refer to some sets as 7" vs others as 8" when the phosphor area is the same by the CRT vendor's spec.


Yep. Utterly arbitrary.

O'Course, I'm from a town where we measure the length of bridges in smoots and teach engineering classes in stonesthrow. Wink

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