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stefuel
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Location: Green Harbor MA USA
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I have not looked at a projector auction (for my self) for over a year. I don't plan to ever buy another CRT projector as I have 4 back-ups, three with perfect tubes. The only way another CRT projector would make it to the garage would be if someone with a 9500 Ultra or Vision 1 showed up at my house with it and begged me to buy it.
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Brian Hampton
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Chip,
I know what you mean. I don't have backup pj's but my G70 still has minty tubes and I could get a Sxrd pj (Sony VW40) for less then cost of re-tube-ing again.
Those Sxrd pj's look ok (I suppose I better double check that before I commit to buy one but then again,.. I'm not ready yet) and they get better and cheaper with each generation. So, when and if I pull out the G70, I may be putting in one of those.
-Brian
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derfla
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Location: eastern ohio
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I bought one of these once. what a monster. got pulled over three times on the way back with one in a s10 pickup. state police just wanted to make sure the load was stable. the marquee was in the cab with me.
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Heywood Jablome
Joined: 12 Mar 2006
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| derfla wrote: | | I bought one of these once. what a monster. got pulled over three times on the way back with one in a s10 pickup. state police just wanted to make sure the load was stable. the marquee was in the cab with me. |
DETAILS!! I can't find anything on this RP carcass... I'd like to know, if possible, the height and approximate weight of each section when broken down, the method of fixing the sections together, how sturdy the mirror is when stowed, and how easy it is to remove the PJ...
Basically I'm deciding whether a pickup truck (covered or otherwise) or SUV and trailer will be all thats' required, or if I'll be able to to just rent a van and do the roundtrip.
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outwest
Joined: 17 Dec 2006
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Location: Honolulu
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Just a thought: the people that worked at the Government Liquidation site here were extraordinarily helpful. It might be worth a phone call to the site and see if someone would be willing to go out to the warehouse and measure the cabinet and pass along some description of how it is put together.
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Elaine Benes
Joined: 25 Apr 2006
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| Posted: Mon Feb 25, 2008 3:22 pm Post subject: |
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| Heywood Jablome wrote: |
DETAILS!! I can't find anything on this RP carcass... I'd like to know, if possible, the height and approximate weight of each section when broken down, the method of fixing the sections together, how sturdy the mirror is when stowed, and how easy it is to remove the PJ...
Basically I'm deciding whether a pickup truck (covered or otherwise) or SUV and trailer will be all thats' required, or if I'll be able to to just rent a van and do the roundtrip. |
I've had one, and I got it home in a regular van. That was before I had the opportunity to really get a good look at it. The top comes off the bottom, and the bottom EASILY comes apart into panels that can be laid flat. The bottom is held together with rounded corner channel at the corners, and twist tight spring clips(if I remember correctly...).
The top simply lifts off the bottom(again, if I remember correctly...), but its a REAL heavy bitch. There are handles in the top, two per side, at the bottom of the top part, so that makes lifting it off and moving it around a bit easier.
The top is not *made* to come apart, but does easily as well. The bottom does not take tools even to get apart, but the top does. The weight in incredible because its made entirely of heavy duty MDF, very dense and heavy. The metal rack for the projector weighs a good 50 lbs too, btw. Getting the projector out is easy enough, take the front and back panels off, loosen the bolts holding it into the metal cradle, then just lift it out.
The only things that can't be broken down into small panels are the actual screen, and the metal slide out back that holds the mirror. It is one piece though, but very awkward to move around as it doesn't have any flat surfaces to readily rest it on.
If you don't want to break down the top(cause it takes tools to do), the metal slide out mirror holder can be locked into the top, but it still sticks out some.
I'd guesstimate the top, as a whole piece, at about 300lbs, I got mine into the basement alone by taking it apart upstairs, bringing each piece downstairs, then re-assembling.
Good luck.
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derfla
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Location: eastern ohio
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Elaine Benes adventure sounds as I remember except that my mirror was not glass but some type of plastic film on a light wood frame. the whole thing came apart very fast with a 5lb hammer. the only thing left was the screen.
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Curt Palme
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| Elaine Benes wrote: |
I've had one, and I got it home in a regular van.
Good luck. |
I wonder if Chris Farley could ever say:
'I'll be watching TV... in a VAN DOWN BY THE RIVER!' 
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Heywood Jablome
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| Elaine Benes wrote: | The weight in incredible because its made entirely of heavy duty MDF, very dense and heavy.
Good luck. |
Are you sure you are describing the Retro IV? I've read that its' made entirely of steel, no MDF to be found.
The Retro III may be the one you are describing (see attached.)
I can find no such data on the IV.
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Bruce 09
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| Quote: | Are you sure you are describing the Retro IV? I've read that its' made entirely of steel, no MDF to be found.
The Retro III may be the one you are describing (see attached.)
I can find no such data on the IV. |
| Quote: | | Mounted on heavy-duty concealed 4" casters, the Retro IV configures easily to 32" (81.3 cm) wide, allowing it to pass through standard door openings. The Retro IV features a stacking, easily-assembled two-piece design. The standard unit is finished in a textured semi-matte black, with optional wood trim panels available. An all-steel construction makes the Retro IV a more durable and rigid unit than is possible with wood construction. A new projector mount design allows for easy projector installation and removal. |
This is this first time I have looked at the case and description, I had assumed it was the old MDF retro as well .
Anybody need one ??
Bruce
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Heywood Jablome
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9501LC, HD10Ls, with remote, ACON camera, and documentation.
Oh, and 250 lbs of useless sheetmetal, mirror, and screen (since they scratched the crap out of the screen.)
The PJ is cosmetically immaculate as hoped. Tomorrow morning I'll get it out of my trunk, IO'm wrecked...
The Butchers Bill (so far: )
PJ price withheld as a courtesy to Curt. Suffice it to say I think I scored 
$300 to add a trailer hitch to my TDI Jetta
$0 Borrowed garden trailer.
>$100 in fuel (need to recheck the slips but IIRC the car yielded 35.6MPG down and 33.6 back)
~$15 tolls
~$50 materials and tools (mostly in the form of tarps, bungee cords, etc.)
~$35 miscellaneous food (mostly in the form of Diet Coke!)
Oh... and the small matter of 18.5 hours drive time!!!!!
Other Guy: You need a #2 Phillips to take off the bottom panel from the front of the Retro IV, a 3/16 Allen to remove the mirror from the bottom, the same 3/16 Allen to free the PJs' mounting plate from the pivot bracket, and a stout friend to retrieve the PJ from the Retro chassis and ease it into the vehicle.
I left the PJ on its' mounting plate and it still fit into the trunk of a Jetta IV.
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stefuel
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Good score. Before you try to lug that bugger down the stairs, pull the lenses off. That will reduce the GPW (gross projector weight) by 45 lbs Hold off on any lens swap ideas until you decide on it's final resting place. If it goes up where the old PJ is, you'll probably need the 10L's.
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Zebu Fellenz
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So what do the tubes look like?
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kschmit2
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and let it adjust to room temperature for at least 24 hours, if not 48 hours after you stored it in your car out in the cold.
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NewbieDAN
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so where are the photos? 
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Curt Palme
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| Zebu Fellenz wrote: | | So what do the tubes look like? |
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Give him another 24 hours to respond. He's currently pinned under 250 lbs of CRT goodness lying next to his Jetta..
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Heywood Jablome
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I'll have the lenses off tonight. I did not even get the PJ out of the trunk last night after 18.5 hours driving.
Pics attached. I'll document the Retro IV chassis when I get home tonight (It's a nice chassis... it even has a couple U of rack rails right below the screen. I'll verify that these are 19" when I'm measuring tonight.)
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draganm
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well if the tubes are in good shape then you scored for only $1500. Even if only the green is burnt it's still a good buy. Don't forget you still need a set of lenses no matter what, HD10L's are usless in a HT.
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AnalogRocks
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| draganm wrote: | | well if the tubes are in good shape then you scored for only $1500. Even if only the green is burnt it's still a good buy. Don't forget you still need a set of lenses no matter what, HD10L's are usless in a HT. |
Joy kill...
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Heywood Jablome
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| draganm wrote: | | well if the tubes are in good shape then you scored for only $1500. Even if only the green is burnt it's still a good buy. Don't forget you still need a set of lenses no matter what, HD10L's are usless in a HT. |
Not entirely useless... Small screens OCCASIONALLY (OK, rarely!) require the Ls, and I think blends almost always do, unless the screen size is silly.
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