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Skipping new movies on DVD / HD-DVD and waiting for Blu-ray?
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Posted: Wed Feb 06, 2008 5:24 pm    Post subject: Skipping new movies on DVD / HD-DVD and waiting for Blu-ray?

I'm curious if anyone else is doing this:

Lately I'm noticing that for some of the new movies coming out only on DVD and HD-DVD that I really want to see, I've decided that I'm just just to wait until they eventually become available on Blu-ray. (6 months? 18 months?)

Here are some examples:

The Bourne Ultimatum (Universal) - Dec 11, 2007
Elizabeth: The Golden Age (Universal) - Feb 5, 2008
American Gangster (Universal) - Feb 19, 2008

Errr.... there's got to be more... wait a sec...

Funny, I thought the list was going to be longer! I was sure that there was going to be at least 6-10 titles due out over the next 6 months that I was going to have to skip over. I used the list here: http://hddvd.highdefdigest.com/releasedates.html

HD just looks so much better than SD, and I'm not buying into the dying format that is HD-DVD.

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Posted: Wed Feb 06, 2008 5:36 pm    Post subject:

Kal i agree 100%

I was mad enough to spit nails when i saw the advert for american gangster.... i'll just wait for the B/R conversion

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Posted: Wed Feb 06, 2008 6:16 pm    Post subject:

You and I can't be the only ones doing this I would think. This is likely to help sway companies like Universal to also release Blu-ray. I'm not going to spend any money on DVD, nor do I even want to watch it on standar-def DVD. And I'm not going to buy an HD-DVD player (no matter how cheap) to buy or rent a few HD-DVD discs.

I'm really curious how well (or badly) the sales of some of the upcoming discs is going to go.

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Posted: Wed Feb 06, 2008 6:23 pm    Post subject:

I'll rent or buy the movies on whichever format they're available in. I have both players, so I'll be watching American Gangster while you guys sit on your thumbs. Wink

Other than a few kids' shows and one purchased for relatives' Christmas gift, I don't think we've bought a DVD for at least 6 months.

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Posted: Wed Feb 06, 2008 6:23 pm    Post subject: Re: Skipping new movies on DVD / HD-DVD and waiting for Blu-

kal wrote:
Errr.... there's got to be more... wait a sec...

Kal! You're missing "Girls Gone Wild" and "Galaxina" !! Surely THAT'S worth getting an HD-DVD player for.... Laughing
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Posted: Wed Feb 06, 2008 7:12 pm    Post subject:

There's only a half-dozen or so on either list that I'm really excited at all about. I'm sure glad I started getting into renting instead of buying. There just don't seem to be that many movies I'm interested in owning lately.

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Posted: Wed Feb 06, 2008 7:28 pm    Post subject:

Off the top of my head, I see a few more that got good revues:

Beowulf
Michael Clayton
Sweeney Todd: The Demon Barber of Fleet Street
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Posted: Wed Feb 06, 2008 8:05 pm    Post subject:

Michael Clayton's available on Blu-ray. The other two are not and do sound interesting.

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Posted: Wed Feb 06, 2008 8:16 pm    Post subject:

ecrabb wrote:
There's only a half-dozen or so on either list that I'm really excited at all about. I'm sure glad I started getting into renting instead of buying. There just don't seem to be that many movies I'm interested in owning lately.

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There are 3 new ones im dying to see on B/R

The Dark Knight

Wanted

Iron Man

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Posted: Wed Feb 06, 2008 8:55 pm    Post subject:

Whoa. "Wanted" looks very interesting. Trailer: http://www.wantedmovie.com/

Released by Universal, in theaters June 27th. Hopefully HD-DVD will be long dead within a few months after that and Universal switched to the Dark Side. Smile

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Posted: Wed Feb 06, 2008 9:14 pm    Post subject:

kal wrote:
Whoa. "Wanted" looks very interesting. Trailer: http://www.wantedmovie.com/

Released by Universal, in theaters June 27th. Hopefully HD-DVD will be long dead within a few months after that and Universal switched to the Dark Side. Smile

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There was a commercial during the super bowl that put me onto it. I'm looking forward to it.

I think B/R is cool w/ Dark knight and iron man. They are Warner Bros and Paramount respectively... Thumbs Up

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Posted: Wed Feb 06, 2008 10:07 pm    Post subject:

Like Universal, Paramount's HD-DVD only. Likely not for long let's hope.

Paramount will likely ramp up faster as they already know how to make Blu-ray discs (having done so in the past). Universal never has so it'll likely take them longer to come up to speed with the process. The encoding may be the same, but the menus, replication, etc. is all different.

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Posted: Wed Feb 06, 2008 11:52 pm    Post subject:

It shouldn't take Paramount long, actually. None of the studios themselves do the actual authoring and production. They just hand the content over to third-party production houses. So, if (yes, I said IF Wink) Paramount decides to go to the dark side, they'll just start working with somebody who's done it already and has the capability.

Just for the record, when I said there wasn't much I was that excited about, I was referring primarily to stuff that was already out or coming soon on HDM. On the other hand, there's lots of stuff I'm excited about seeing that's either in theaters, coming to theaters soon, or hasn't been out of the theaters long and will still be months until it's released on HDM.

Dark Night and Iron Man both look cool, but haven't even hit the theater yet. Wall-E is in the same category - in theaters June.

I am Legend, Cloverfield... there's a whole slew of stuff that's just been in the theaters in the last month or two that I'm excited to see, but won't be out on disc for awhile.

I guess what I was getting at was that out of those big lists, there's surprisingly little I'm actually excited to see. 50+ HD DVD releases announced for through the end of May, and only about half a dozen I'm excited about, another half-dozen I'm like-warm on, and another 40 I couldn't care less about. The BD list is barely any better (percentage-wise). My point was, I wish Hollywood was kicking out some better stuff.

Another thing... I wish that instead of spending 300 million dollars to produce one film, maybe they could spend 100 million on three GOOD films. They're good fun, but I'm really getting tired of every other movie being a campy remake or another comic book/game/cartoon action film. Godzilla, Fantastic Four, X-Men, Spider Man, Batman, Iron Man, Punisher, Hitman, Transformers...my God, I could go on and on. I love the stuff, but it's getting REALLY old. I want more creative out-of-the-box stuff like Frank Miller - 300, Sin City... Quentin Tarantino - Pulp Fiction, Reservoir Dogs... Fight Club... Memento... actual creative stories and presentations. Pi, Requiem for a Dream...

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Posted: Thu Feb 07, 2008 1:22 am    Post subject:

SC, I agree with you on renting. I have 12 HD DVDs that I bought at or near retail (got my 5 promos recently). That works out to be over $300. Ouch. I've watched most once, some twice, and some I have yet to watch (I like watching movies with guests as watching a movie alone is boring). At these prices it really makes a hell of a lot more sense to rent than own. Plus, there's still crap for content on both sides. I'm also not buying DVDs anymore. I cannot stand how soft they look on my setup compared to HD. Though the price sure it right for DVDs. Reservoir Dogs is a title I just might have to import from Europe on HD DVD though. That's one worth owning.

If HD DVD is going down in a ball of flames, it sure would be nice to see a break on the media prices. If/when that happens I'll probably start buying more. I wish I could see NPD sales figures between Blu-ray and HD DVD for this past week.
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Posted: Thu Feb 07, 2008 1:51 am    Post subject:

ecrabb wrote:
I guess what I was getting at was that out of those big lists, there's surprisingly little I'm actually excited to see.

I know exactly what you mean. I don't know if it's me getting older or more jaded (I'm 38) but I find movies don't have the same 'wow' factor as they used to. I'm bored half the time.

ecrabb wrote:
Another thing... I wish that instead of spending 300 million dollars to produce one film, maybe they could spend 100 million on three GOOD films.

The reasons for this are simple: Return on investment. Movies have gotten so friggin' expensive to produce that investors (ie: in the most part, movie studios) want a guarantee on their investment before shelling out big bucks. They couldn't care LESS how 'interesting' a movie is. As long as it makes back the money and turns in a tidy profit, that's all they care about. "Spiderman 26" is far more interesting to them than some shot-in-the-dark movie taking a risk.

I know exactly what you mean. Some of my favs are all odd-ball movies where huge risks were taken. They ended up being successful and thn often the follow-up movies are so much worse because they just got glossed over to make big $$$. The Matrix series is a good example. The first movie was fantastic. The other two, well, not quite the same in terms of the 'magic'.

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Posted: Thu Feb 07, 2008 10:20 am    Post subject:

I, too, am not buying anymore HD DVD movies. I am old enough that I can be patient AND distracted by watching what is available on B/R.
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Posted: Thu Feb 07, 2008 2:55 pm    Post subject:

I'm not buying any either, though I never really intended to. I bought a used Transformers, and I'll keep one of my 5 freebie disks (Pitch Black) so I've at least got something to watch, but right now I'm too busy to justify joining a rental deal to get a steady source of HDDVDs. I got Blade Runner for Christmas and I'm tempted to see if Amazon will take it back. My mom was going to get me Planet Earth but maybe I'll hold off on that. Much as I want HDDVD to beat BD, it's pretty clear it ain't gonna happen.
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Posted: Thu Feb 07, 2008 3:33 pm    Post subject:

garyfritz wrote:
I'm not buying any either, though I never really intended to. I bought a used Transformers, and I'll keep one of my 5 freebie disks (Pitch Black) so I've at least got something to watch, but right now I'm too busy to justify joining a rental deal to get a steady source of HDDVDs. I got Blade Runner for Christmas and I'm tempted to see if Amazon will take it back. My mom was going to get me Planet Earth but maybe I'll hold off on that. Much as I want HDDVD to beat BD, it's pretty clear it ain't gonna happen.


Blade Runner on B/R looks Dyn-O-Mite!!!!

Dude, e-bay them HD-DVD's and flip to the dark side!


You know you want to...... Wink

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Posted: Thu Feb 07, 2008 4:45 pm    Post subject:

I'm sure BR looks dyno on HDDVD too. Smile Yeah, I'm ebaying the other freebies, which will mean I've got maybe $50 invested in my player and just a couple of disks, so I won't be hurt if/when HDDVD goes south. But with the only decent BD player (PS3) still running at $400, it'll probably be a while before I jump. I'll just rent HDDVDs for a while.
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Posted: Thu Feb 07, 2008 4:50 pm    Post subject:

emdawgz1 wrote:

Dude, e-bay them HD-DVD's and flip to the dark side!

Better yet, send 'em to me (for free of course, since they're apparently just junk.) Wink Seriously, though - it's not like they don't work just as good now as when Sony hegemony wasn't winning the war.

Hey, here's something cool. Speaking of used discs, I heard from a friend that the Mister Money in his town has used HD/BD disks for $10-14. He bought Casino Royale, Talladega Nights, and a couple others for $14/ea. Some were $10/ea, and they guarantee they'll play, or you can return/exchange.

The Mister Money here is about a 30-minute drive over to the opposite side of town for me, but it'd be worth it if I could pick up some HD/BD discs for cheap. I've been trying to grab Casino Royale for cheap for two months now, but all the dumb-asses on fleabay consistently bid them right up to Amazon prices - or MORE. WTF?

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