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Tom.W · Joined: 09 Mar 2006 Posts: 6635

Nice to see ya back Jeff ! Thumbs Up

Hell_Hound · Joined: 14 Jun 2008 Posts: 6

Hi i have a crestron CNMS and a touchpannel however i have no clue how to config it AND i don't have the software

can ANYONE please help me?

Thanks

Hell_Hound

az_max · Joined: 19 Feb 2008 Posts: 12

Hell_Hound · Joined: 14 Jun 2008 Posts: 6

thanks for your reply az max i managed to get the software now i've just got to get the time to have a serious sit down and play with it Smile

nmliving · Joined: 19 Oct 2008 Posts: 3 Location: Atl Ga.

Just finished up on a demo of a conference room that used to belong to one of the major computer company's and ended up with a crestron control system from it. It is an older CNMU and 2 Ct- 3500 touch screens. I would very much like to use this system in my theater ( which is all older but good equitment). I have programed many other HA control systems in the past but like most of us out there who come across this older crestron eqiptment I am unable to locate the software since crestron restricted downloads from there site.
Any help would be very much appreciated.
Thank's nmliving

jkv · Joined: 17 Aug 2006 Posts: 34

you would be better off tossing that stuff and picking up a more up-to-date processor from ebay.

nmliving · Joined: 19 Oct 2008 Posts: 3 Location: Atl Ga.

Hate to toss any kind of stuff that is still useable.
This system was currently operating everything just fine before removal. I know it is older but will be a good system to practice on while looking for upgraded eqiptment.

KES · Joined: 13 May 2007 Posts: 94 Location: Iowa

This thread has just died. Anyone know what happened to Jeff? Got my system going great, except for the serial control to the Barco 1208. Anyone have experience in troubleshoting this issue?

jkv · Joined: 17 Aug 2006 Posts: 34

KES · Joined: 13 May 2007 Posts: 94 Location: Iowa

I am running an MP2 with com A to Barco 1208 RS232 in connection. I have used Systembuilder to build the programming, and have had no problems with it. I am using the Barco 1208 module supplied by Systembuilder. I have also checked the serial cable against the Crestron cable database, and pins 2,3,and 5 match. When I run Real-Time, I see the signals are being sent, but no change at the Barco. I have also checked that the baud rate for both ends are the same. Serial settings are 8 data bits, 1 stop, no parity. Can handshaking settings be the problem? I'm at the end of my troubleshooting expertise. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated. Thanks jkv

jkv · Joined: 17 Aug 2006 Posts: 34

KES · Joined: 13 May 2007 Posts: 94 Location: Iowa

By "real-time" are you using ViewPort or Toolbox? When you say "signals", do you mean the serial strings that are output from the MP2? What do those look like? Do they match the protocol doc for the 1208?

9600/8/1/NP is standard and if they match up that's fine. The COM ports on a Crestron processor are non-standard so make sure the cable is correct on *both* ends.

Not sure what your level of expertise is with the Crestron tools (or if you have access to them). If you have access to either TestManager or the Toolbox Debugger, make sure the serial strings going out the port are correct. If they are and there is no response, use something like HyperTerm (or ViewPort in passthru mode) and connect the 1208 to your PC and send the strings directly to see if it responds.

Is there a setting on the 1208 to "enable" the rs232 port? Some devices have an enable/disable in their settings.

try that and let me know...

I'm using Real-Time as in Systembuiler. I have Toolbox, but havn't used it. Real-Time just shows I have pressed a button and the MP2 processed it. I don't see any serial strings. My level of expertise with Crestron Tools is nil. Embarassed

There is no enable for the 1208 rs232 port that I am aware of.

jkv · Joined: 17 Aug 2006 Posts: 34

KES · Joined: 13 May 2007 Posts: 94 Location: Iowa

Viewport, SIMPL, SIMPL+, Systembuilder, Toolbox, Pro-E, DEAL, Applicationbuilder, and any other s/w Crestron has. I do the updates. Where can I find the strings for the 1208?

jkv · Joined: 17 Aug 2006 Posts: 34

KES · Joined: 13 May 2007 Posts: 94 Location: Iowa

Found the problem! Embarassed

The Barco address is 1. The crestron module assumes 0. Simply had to add a step to switch to 1, when I access the Projector pages on the touchpanel. Thumbs Up

Thanks for your help jkv. Can put the Barco remote in storage! Always seems to be the simplest oversights that cause the greatest headaches.

jkv · Joined: 17 Aug 2006 Posts: 34

english_1969 · Joined: 01 Jan 2009 Posts: 3

Hi,

after reading this thread I was able to get my ST-CP and ST1550C working quite well.

I now have a grafik eye (3000 6 zones) (which is working and is wired up with a GRX dry contact interface).

I am trying to get my ST-LT programmed in to the ST-CP.

Right now, I am simply trying to get a button to activation a preset on the GE.

I have been able to get the ST-LT loaded into simpl and appear to have the needed drivers for the GR eye, but I can't seem to figure out what signals to connect to get it to work.

When I press the button on the touchpanel, I can see the red light got the lutron OUT on the ST-LT activate, but nothing from there.

Any suggestions?

Thanks,
W

jkv · Joined: 17 Aug 2006 Posts: 34

I've never used a ST-LT, so take this with a grain of salt, but this is what I think (and what I would do).

The ST-LT provides two (2) interfaces, (1) port A connects to the MUX link and (2) port B connects to a PC running Lutron control s/w; you shouldn't care about port B since you don't want to connect to a PC (do you?). Since both of these ports are really serial drivers each with a serial transmit/receive, you should be able receive feedback from the grafix eye on the rx$ line from port A and send cmds via the tx$ line on port A. So I would:

1. use viewport to see what the rx$ line coming from port A looks like (feedback from the grafix eye). Since you have a ST-CP, you will need to add a "serial debug" symbol to your program to view serial data in viewport.

2. you should be able to tie touch panel presses to a SIO symbol and send cmds directly to the grafix eye (via the ST-LT) using the tx$ line on port A of the ST-LT.

3. go to the Lutron web site and search; you should be able to find the rs232 cmds/syntax you need.

ping me if you need more help

english_1969 · Joined: 01 Jan 2009 Posts: 3

Well,

I've gotten the ST-LT somewhat working, but I cannot seem to actually get a scene change.

Using a serial debug symbol, I am able to pickup strings from the ST-LT that correspond to changes in the GE when I change the scene from the GE itself or from the GRX-AV.

So, it looks like I'm talking to it, however, when I do the :G command, I get a response, but i get this (in effect) 'NNNNNNNN'. So it looks like my GE is not responding to this request properly.

One question - I installed my GE and never changed anything out of the box. Do I need to specifically set the address of the GE? I see how to do that from the manual, but didn't do it - could that be the issue?

Thanks,
w