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ronholm



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Posted: Wed Feb 13, 2008 2:12 pm    Post subject:

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Any luck with your supplier Ron?



Just talked to them, I don't really understand why they won't cut me a killer deal on laminate. I am doing a couple big tile jobs in the near future and they almost gave me some $$$$ tile.... I know I can get the stuff for 1.75 a sq ft. That is what she just told me. They have 4 of the 5x12 size in stock and could have as many as I wanted by the end of the week.

The company just changed names and sized down its staff a little bit and my usual rep moved on to another company. I think my business may follow her. I will try and track her down today.

But I will give them one last chance on this...

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Posted: Sat Feb 16, 2008 2:57 pm    Post subject:

Oh and I can't seem to do any better than the 1.75 U.S. on the laminate.. They will sell me tile that 50% of retail.. and I have bought laminate before and never had a problem...

I have a couple more calls to make.. I never thought to call my cabinet guy... maybe he buys enough of the stuff...

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Posted: Thu Feb 21, 2008 2:15 am    Post subject:

I tried to buy it from Rona last friday but I missed thesales lady in the cabinet section. I'll try again this week.

Thanks for trying Ron.

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Posted: Thu Feb 21, 2008 2:22 am    Post subject:

AnalogRocks wrote:
I tried to buy it from Rona last friday but I missed thesales lady in the cabinet section. I'll try again this week.

Thanks for trying Ron.


I am still annoyed that I couldn't get a better price on that stuff..


I can get it for you if all else fails...

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Posted: Thu Feb 21, 2008 2:26 am    Post subject:

Hey keep trying. I'm not the only one looking I'm sure.
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Posted: Wed Mar 12, 2008 10:58 pm    Post subject:

Wow I feel like RONA tried a bait and switch on me.

Back on Jan 28 I got a quote from Rona. It was as follows:

1 Piece 5' x 12 foot Wilsonart D354-60-117
2 Pieces 30"x12 foot Wilsonart D 354-60-117
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All for $328 plus tax.
Total:$370.64

Ok now I didn't need the 2nd piece of 30" x 12'
so I figured my total today when I went to order would be:
$246 plus tax
Total: $277.98

Not bad for a whole wall screen 12 x 7.5 then I can mask to whatever I need.

However today she quoted me $497.70 plus tax
$562.40!!Shocked for the two pieces I need

OK so she did the old " Lemme see what I can do..."

She came back at $400 plus tax.

$452 with tax. That's a $174 increase. DUH I don't think so....

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Posted: Wed Mar 12, 2008 11:05 pm    Post subject:

AnalogRocks wrote:
Wow I feel like RONA tried a bait and switch on me.

Back on Jan 28 I got a quote from Rona. It was as follows:

1 Piece 5' x 12 foot Wilsonart D354-60-117
2 Pieces 30"x12 foot Wilsonart D 354-60-117
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All for $328 plus tax.
Total:$370.64

Ok now I didn't need the 2nd piece of 30" x 12'
so I figured my total today when I went to order would be:
$246 plus tax
Total: $277.98

Not bad for a whole wall screen 12 x 7.5 then I can mask to whatever I need.

However today she quoted me $497.70 plus tax
$562.40!!Shocked for the two pieces I need

OK so she did the old " Lemme see what I can do..."

She came back at $400 plus tax.

$452 with tax. That's a $174 increase. DUH I don't think so....


WOW!!! I didn't know you were buying a controlling share in the company! Thumbs Down

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Posted: Wed Mar 12, 2008 11:05 pm    Post subject:

I assume you have looked for other sources. If not I have attached a link to Wilsonarts dealer locater. I paid around $85 in Dallas for a sheet of 5' x 10' (or 12', I can't remember)

http://www.countertop.com/locator/Default.aspx

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Posted: Wed Mar 12, 2008 11:15 pm    Post subject:

drice1234 wrote:
I assume you have looked for other sources. If not I have attached a link to Wilsonarts dealer locater. I paid around $85 in Dallas for a sheet of 5' x 10'

http://www.countertop.com/locator/Default.aspx

Dan



And I can get it for just better than that number here plus shipping.

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Posted: Wed Mar 12, 2008 11:50 pm    Post subject:

Crazy stuff yes? I called Wilsonart USA they gave me the number for Wilsonart Canada ( located not to far away ) I'll call them tomorow between business hours and see what they can do for me.

Gee this screen thing is becomming a quest.

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Posted: Thu Mar 13, 2008 3:41 am    Post subject:

Ummm, once you get much over $100-$150 you might as well paint a screen.
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Posted: Thu Mar 13, 2008 4:19 am    Post subject:

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Ummm, once you get much over $100-$150 you might as well paint a screen.


Why do you say that?

Besides that would be a giant PITA here. I have wood panneling on the walls and the screen need's to be mounted in such a way that it doesn't get damaged.

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Posted: Thu Mar 13, 2008 7:04 pm    Post subject:

AnalogRocks wrote:
Spanky Ham wrote:
Ummm, once you get much over $100-$150 you might as well paint a screen.


Why do you say that?

Besides that would be a giant PITA here. I have wood panneling on the walls and the screen need's to be mounted in such a way that it doesn't get damaged.


It depends on how you are going to mount it. A lot of people are laminating it to MDF. If the MDF is the same size as the laminate, then just paint the laminate. When I first suggested this material, it was for people who don't want to paint, need an indestructible surface and a material larger than the readily available 4x8. Since that time, you can get a turbine sprayer from HD for around $60. A better model from Harbor Freight is around $80. A 4x8 piece of MDF is around $25. Behr UPW and Kilz will probably set you back another $20. This gives you a final cost of about $125 for a screen with a turbine sprayer left over for other paint spraying projects around the house. The Wilsonart is good, but it is not worth $300 to $400.
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Posted: Thu Mar 13, 2008 7:33 pm    Post subject:

the question is, if you want to have a screen wider than 8', what sheet good do you buy that you can paint?
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Posted: Thu Mar 13, 2008 7:36 pm    Post subject:

i'm currently building a theater and plan to put a 9500lc up. i happen to live in canada in a city that borders michigan. i keep a shipping address there and do most of my online shoping for....everything in the states. if i decided to get a 5x10 sheet of wilsonart shipped to me, i could probably get a few additional sheets shipped. if someone from TO was heading down southwestern ontario, i'm about 2.5hrs away (sarnia) just a thought.
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Posted: Thu Mar 13, 2008 9:53 pm    Post subject:

$300-$400 for wilsonart?? I payed ~$105 incl shipping for 4x8 laminate. I can't think that 5x8 or 5x9 cost that much more?


Spanky Ham wrote:
AnalogRocks wrote:
Spanky Ham wrote:
Ummm, once you get much over $100-$150 you might as well paint a screen.


Why do you say that?

Besides that would be a giant PITA here. I have wood panneling on the walls and the screen need's to be mounted in such a way that it doesn't get damaged.


It depends on how you are going to mount it. A lot of people are laminating it to MDF. If the MDF is the same size as the laminate, then just paint the laminate. When I first suggested this material, it was for people who don't want to paint, need an indestructible surface and a material larger than the readily available 4x8. Since that time, you can get a turbine sprayer from HD for around $60. A better model from Harbor Freight is around $80. A 4x8 piece of MDF is around $25. Behr UPW and Kilz will probably set you back another $20. This gives you a final cost of about $125 for a screen with a turbine sprayer left over for other paint spraying projects around the house. The Wilsonart is good, but it is not worth $300 to $400.

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Posted: Fri Mar 14, 2008 12:59 am    Post subject:

Spanky Ham wrote:
AnalogRocks wrote:
Spanky Ham wrote:
Ummm, once you get much over $100-$150 you might as well paint a screen.


Why do you say that?

Besides that would be a giant PITA here. I have wood panneling on the walls and the screen need's to be mounted in such a way that it doesn't get damaged.


It depends on how you are going to mount it. A lot of people are laminating it to MDF. If the MDF is the same size as the laminate, then just paint the laminate. When I first suggested this material, it was for people who don't want to paint, need an indestructible surface and a material larger than the readily available 4x8. Since that time, you can get a turbine sprayer from HD for around $60. A better model from Harbor Freight is around $80. A 4x8 piece of MDF is around $25. Behr UPW and Kilz will probably set you back another $20. This gives you a final cost of about $125 for a screen with a turbine sprayer left over for other paint spraying projects around the house. The Wilsonart is good, but it is not worth $300 to $400.


But then I'd be into painting with a sprayer around TONS of clasic (read: old ) electronics I have scattered about. Not my idea of fun. I have to build what ever I do in place.

I was thinking of getting a piece of wilsonart in a 4 x 5 size and painting it with retroreflective paint but it wasn't too highly recommended.

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Posted: Fri Mar 14, 2008 4:06 pm    Post subject:

I just got off the phone with Wilsonart Canada ( Mississauga Ontario ). The nice lady tell's me their product is available from many outlet's such as:
Home Hardware
Lowe's
Castle Building Centre
Beaver Lumber

She also sugested that I could try an independant cabinent maker. Just so happen's I know one of those. He always marks things up too much though.

Then I inquired about purchasing direct. She said they don't sell direct, however, if I have a company with a GST number they can sell to me at their cash and carry for $3.08 sq foot.

A little quick figuring:
3.08 x 90 Sq ft (5'x12' & 2.5'x12')
=277.20 + tax
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I'll make a fewe more call's to Castle and Home Hardware but I'm betting this is the way I go. I'll likely just goto the cash n' carry.

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Posted: Fri Mar 14, 2008 8:55 pm    Post subject:

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I was thinking of getting a piece of wilsonart in a 4 x 5 size and painting it with retroreflective paint but it wasn't too highly recommended.


Well the paint you were looking at is very expensive and the spray bombs are very hard to get an even distribution of microbead on the screen it really shows up when unevenly applied . I also said I would send you some stuff that would work . Are you going to be gluing this to some mdf ? Hopefully you are. There two thicknesses of this, get the better stuff, especially if you are thinking of trying to just gluing it to a frame . How are you going to be hanging this?


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I just talked to my supplier while I was chicken pecking this and I can get you a 5' by 12'sheet for $128 Pus tax.

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Posted: Sat Mar 15, 2008 12:37 am    Post subject:

Thanks Bruce, I'll let you know. only thing that will kill me is the shipping.

I plan to mount this on a 1/4 " plywood with 2x3 framing and mont the bottom edge with a cleat then tilt the top out to get my correct projection angle.

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