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[ysati]

Hello!

I replaced my Faroudja DVP1080 by Iscan VP50 Pro.
I get more sharpness in color quality and fluidity.
Now I can use the YCbCr 4:4:4.
I use a cable of 8m DVI / DVI, with two adapters DVI / HDMI and it works perfectly.

My setup:
OPPO Blu-Ray, 1080p/48Hz, YCbCr 4:4:4, 0-255 VP50 and 0-255(B), IFB Moome.
OPPO DVD PAL 1080p/50Hz, YCbCr 4:4:4, 0-255 everywhere.
OPPO DVD NTSC, 1080p/60Hz, YCbCr 4:4:4, 0-255 everywhere.
TV 1080p/50Hz, RGB, 0-255 everywhere.
DUNE MEDIA CENTER 1080p/48Hz, YCbCr 4:4:4, 0-255 VP50 and 16-235 (A) IFB Moom.
Setting specific color to each of these sources.

I confirmed with YCbCr 4:4:4 and ITU 709 on the VP50, I must put 0-255 (B), the IFB Moom.
Otherwise, it's really too clear. In the dark we see far beyond the IRE 4.
It seems more consistent, since the VP50 was ITU BT 709 = 0-255 and 0-255 output on the IFB input ...
That would be OK for the Oppo Blu-Ray.
By cons for DUNE Media center, it would change the color space on the IFB. Because there's too dark.
Now, I'm very fully satisfied, thank you again.

YCbCr 4:4:4 and IFB Fullhd V2 Moome, It's incredible.

Thanks

Yves

[CIR Engineering]

Try the "A" "B" and "C" buttons on the Moome remote for changing the luma standard between 0-255 and 16-235. Also, you should get the best colors by setting everything you can to YCbCr 422 instead of 444. 422 is 10-bit color and 444 is only 8-bit.

craigr

[cinema mad]

Hi Yves, Wow you did'nt stuff about getting hold of A VP50pro
I would use HDMI cables instead of DVI...

For the best result use YcBcR 4:2:2 Rec 709 color space for the complete video chain,
also the VP50pro only works in 10bit for 4:2:2, as RGB and 444 are only 8bit when it comes to the VP50pro..

The VP50pro is A big step up compared to your older Faroudja DVP1080

[cinema mad]

Craig bet me to it I type way to slow..

Yes Craig is right on you need to press "C" on the IFB-Full HD remote..

Cheers..

[ysati]

[cinema mad]

Yes press button C on the Moome remote then set up the Gamma in the card

[CIR Engineering]

[cinema mad]

Yes Button "C" is to engage the BBF Black function boost.. Output range 16-235, I fined it makes the Gamma perform much more effective..

For some reason Moome left this feature out in the Sony Full HD manual
But included it in the Full HD VIM manual..

Its A must use feature for use CRT'rs, Moome uses it with his G90..

Cheers Craig..

[ysati]

[CIR Engineering]

[mp20748]

Don't recall which is which, but Moome told me one of them forces the card into 0-255..

[CIR Engineering]

[ysati]

[CIR Engineering]

You should use 422 whenever possible in most cases. Comming out of the VP to the projector you should use 422 because of two reasons. One is that the VP will process in the 422 domain. Using 422 will make it so that the VP doesn't have to convert to 444 or RGB on the output (less conversion errors). Second reason for 422 on the output is that it is 10-bit and the Moome board can use the 10-bit digital signal during the D/A conversion. More bits in the digital results in a better D/A conversion.

Many sources do not allow 422 on the output unfortunately. If you don't have 422 use 444, and if you don't have 422 or 444 use RGB.

craigr

[ysati]

Thank you craigr.
In VP output, I always have 4:2:2:2.
In input, I can have, 4:2:2:2, 4:4:4 or RGB...
I tested the key C on the IFB Moome, but nothing...
I think that Moome spoke about the input C on the SONY remote, which corresponds to activate the IFB.

Yves

[cinema mad]

its 100% button "C" on the Moome remote, you need to make sure the Card is reciving the comand..

Are you inputting 4:2:2 into the VP50 pro ? in the VP50pro Check the infomation window by going to the Configuration menu then click on information at the bottom of that list so it shows up on the projection screen to confirm you are indeed inputing 4:2:2 -24P..

[ysati]

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[ysati]

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