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marksG70
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Location: Bendigo Victoria Australia
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| Posted: Tue Feb 17, 2009 10:41 am Post subject: Re: hi |
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| moome wrote: | Do you have datasheet?
you can download online and ut can help you how to use  |
Sorry i just found the data sheet it does have more info but it appears that most of the buttons dont work inc the power button?
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JohnHWman
Joined: 15 May 2007
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Location: France - Grenoble
TV/Projector: Sony VPH-G90U (one unit for me, four others units repaired and sold)
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Hey Moome,
Any news for the IFB-FULLHD replacement card availability for me ?
Thx
John
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moome
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kal
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shortcutb
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| Posted: Tue Feb 24, 2009 6:16 pm Post subject: 1.3 Full HD for 1252Q |
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I still have my 1252Q and it's doing well but at 480. Is it worth upgrading to FullHD 1.3 HDMI card to watch Blu Ray- can the 1252Q even handle 72mhz/1080p?
I've had no problems with my old projector but it's time to get some HD going.
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kal
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| Posted: Tue Feb 24, 2009 6:48 pm Post subject: Re: 1.3 Full HD for 1252Q |
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| shortcutb wrote: | | I still have my 1252Q and it's doing well but at 480. |
That's because you've never seen 1080i on it. 
| Quote: | | Is it worth upgrading to FullHD 1.3 HDMI card to watch Blu Ray- can the 1252Q even handle 72mhz/1080p? |
1080i HD on your projector will look phenominal. I owned a Barco 800 for 5 years that is almost identical in performance to your Sony 1252 and HD looks night and day different. The only downside is that after you've been watching HD for a while you'll think that SD (480i) looks like crap.
You don't need 72Hz/1080p either. Run it at 1080i instead. It's 1920x1080 resolution just like 1080p, only difference is that the screen is refreshed 30 times/second instead of 60. But since film and videos are shot at only 24 and 30 frames/second you're already equal to or above the refresh rate you need. I'm simplifying things a bit (there are pluses and minuses in the 1080i vs 1080p debate but that's the gist of it).
72 vs 60 hz is overblown in my mind. I ran my old Barco at 72Hz and since going with Blu-ray I'm "only" at 60Hz now. The judder is subtle. Very subtle. Not worth it IMHO since it would cost you a fortune to turn 1080i/24 into 1080i/72 (very expensive scaler)..
So long story short. You don't want 1080p/72 for a Sony 1252. You want to run a very simple 1080i/60. All you need to do is:
Source devices (Blu-ray player / HDTV box) -> HDMI cables -> IFB-FULLHD card in the projector.
That's it.
| Quote: | | I've had no problems with my old projector but it's time to get some HD going. |
Yup.
Kal
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moome
Joined: 01 Jun 2007
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| Posted: Wed Feb 25, 2009 7:24 am Post subject: Re: hi |
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| marksG70 wrote: | | moome wrote: | Do you have datasheet?
you can download online and ut can help you how to use |
Sorry i just found the data sheet it does have more info but it appears that most of the buttons dont work inc the power button? |
yes
power botton no functional
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marksG70
Joined: 27 Jan 2009
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Location: Bendigo Victoria Australia
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| Posted: Wed Feb 25, 2009 2:04 pm Post subject: Re: sony input card questions |
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| moome wrote: | | marksG70 wrote: | | moome wrote: | Do you have datasheet?
you can download online and ut can help you how to use |
Sorry i just found the data sheet it does have more info but it appears that most of the buttons dont work inc the power button? |
yes
power botton no functional |
Any other buttons not functionable we should know about?
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moome
Joined: 01 Jun 2007
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| Posted: Thu Feb 26, 2009 12:15 pm Post subject: Re: sony input card questions |
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| marksG70 wrote: | | moome wrote: | | marksG70 wrote: | | moome wrote: | Do you have datasheet?
you can download online and ut can help you how to use |
Sorry i just found the data sheet it does have more info but it appears that most of the buttons dont work inc the power button? |
yes
power botton no functional |
Any other buttons not functionable we should know about? |
Key name Function Note
1 input select HDMI0
2 input select HDMI1
Gamma gamma up/down Total 20 step
0 Select minima gamma
100 Select maxima gamma
A Active DVI-RGB 16-235 range
B RGB Bypass mode
ALL THE FUNCTIONS LIST
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kal
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UPDATE: For a limited time, Moome is giving away a free 5 meter (15 foot) HDMI on all IFB-FULLHD orders
Details:
A premium high performance quality HDMI-HDMI cable suitable for use in HDTV, Home Theater, PlayStation 3, and business class projector based applications.
Features gold-plated connectors, molded strain-relief, and mylar-foil shielding.
Cable constructed using the high quality material for best contact connection between HDMI equipment.
Transfer Digital Audio and Video signals at warp speed of 10.2 Gigabytes per second !
Features:
- Gold-plated connectors for highest signal transfer rate and resistance in corrosion.
- Designed to meet all HDMI1.3 standards
- Dolby True HD and DTS-HD Master Audio bitstream capable
- Cable Length: 15 ft / 5 M
- Color: Black
To order an IFB-FULLHD and get your free 5m (15 foot) HDMI cable, see the IFB-FULLHD order page
Kal
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JohnHWman
Joined: 15 May 2007
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Location: France - Grenoble
TV/Projector: Sony VPH-G90U (one unit for me, four others units repaired and sold)
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| Posted: Wed Apr 29, 2009 11:24 am Post subject: |
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Update on my defective IFB-FULLHD input board : received another board from Moome, mounted on my G90 and all is OK now.
It took time (4 months) but now the card is working as expected.
Thanks moome for the exchange. I'm shipping back to you the defective board.
John
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kal
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| Posted: Thu Apr 30, 2009 1:43 am Post subject: |
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Moome's Sony HDMI 1.3 input card now on sale -SAVE $50!
April 29, 2009
Moome's now offering his most popular Sony IFB-FULLHD HDMI 1.3 card at a $50 off sale price same as all his other cards. If you're looking to add Blu-ray or other HDMI sources to your Sony CRT projector this is the highest quality HDMI input you can add. Complete with two HDMI 1.3 inputs and adjustable gamma boost for absolutely perfect gamma tracking.
The IFB-FULLHD features true videophile quality features such as two 100% HDMI 1.3 compliant inputs for Deep Colour support, better discrete 12bit D/A converters, faster 1GHz output buffer, and quality op-amps for the best image quality possible.
More Information / Read Reviews / Buy Now »
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grimm
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I have been looking at the IFB-FULLHD with quite some interest but I am not sure if its the right investment for me. So here are my questions.
I own a Sony VPH-D50Q projector. Its stated max resolution is 1280x1024@60Hz.
1- How will the IFB-FULLHD unit handle a 1080p@60Hz signal? What would be the resolution that I would actually get?
2- Does anyone have a 50Q using the IFB? Whats your opnion on the HD signals being displayed?
3- Is it appropriate to spend $400 on such an old unit?
I will appreciate any comments on this.
Thanks
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betel
Joined: 20 Apr 2006
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Location: Maryville, Tennessee (Just South of Knoxville)
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One quick question: Is there any advantage to the IFB over the EXT verson besides cosmetic. I'm sure this has been covered but where?
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kal
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| betel wrote: | | One quick question: Is there any advantage to the IFB over the EXT verson besides cosmetic. I'm sure this has been covered but where? |
Yes, the dedicated cards use higher end parts.
Taken from the order pages:
Dedicated cards:
EXT-FULLHD:
Look at the right side of the pictures. 14->12 bit vs 12-> 10 bit HDMI receiver, 12 bit vs 10 bit DAC, 1500Mhz vs 1000Mhz video amp. There are other differences too.
There's a reason why the card versions cost more than the external EXT-FULLHD box version that also have a power supply and case... the parts are considerably higher end/more expensive.
Kal
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betel
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Thanks for the clarification Kal. I've been scannning the threads but didn't see the comparisons explicitly pointed out. I ordered the IFB version tonight.
Jimmy
Update 5/22: The IFB card arrived today. 4 days from Taiwan. That is fast. Thanks.
Update 5/23: You know I didn't really expect to see much improvement from my first gen HDFury. Amazing improvement. I still need to re-calibrate gray scale and adjust gamma though.
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moome
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| grimm wrote: | I have been looking at the IFB-FULLHD with quite some interest but I am not sure if its the right investment for me. So here are my questions.
I own a Sony VPH-D50Q projector. Its stated max resolution is 1280x1024@60Hz.
1- How will the IFB-FULLHD unit handle a 1080p@60Hz signal? What would be the resolution that I would actually get?
the IFB can handle 1080P, but for D50, the better performance will be 1080I or 720P
2- Does anyone have a 50Q using the IFB? Whats your opnion on the HD signals being displayed?
3- Is it appropriate to spend $400 on such an old unit?
sure! it is the high performance card special for SONY projector only~
I will appreciate any comments on this.
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grimm
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| Posted: Tue May 19, 2009 6:36 pm Post subject: |
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| moome wrote: |
1- How will the IFB-FULLHD unit handle a 1080p@60Hz signal? What would be the resolution that I would actually get?
the IFB can handle 1080P, but for D50, the better performance will be 1080I or 720P
What would be the horizontal res? 1280?
3- Is it appropriate to spend $400 on such an old unit?
sure! it is the high performance card special for SONY projector only~
Well I guess my question really is if I am going to be so far away from 1920x1080p, am I better off selling the projector and buying something more modest but up-to-date..
I have no doubts that the IFB is a no-brainer decision for owners of G90 but I am not convinced yet for a D50
any thoughts?
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AnalogRocks
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The D50 is best at 1080i, that's still 1920x1080 but at 30Hz instead of 1080p's 60Hz.
720p is 1280x720 at 60Hz it can do it but it looks soft ( at least it does on mine )
A Sony G70 with the Moome card would be a huge step up. No comparison.
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Beetle
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Hello,
do i understand it correctly, that my Sony VPH-1272 upgraded with a IFB-FullHD card will be enabled to
display 720p or 1080i in full width?
I tried feeding analog YUV HD into my IFB-12 but the picture was too narrow. When i first read about
a HDMI IFB card some years ago, that problem was still there. The actual IFB-FullHD has it fixed?
Greets from germany,
Beetle, a happy VPH-1272 user since 2004
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