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stefuel
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| Posted: Tue Oct 30, 2007 9:57 pm Post subject: So, how long can two HD formats exist in the same market? |
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I'd really like to buy a HD player but history has proven that if I take a right turn, I should have turned left. So which one to buy?
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zaphod
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blu-ray, because i'd rather my hd-dvd choice not be wrong 
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AvgOrdinaryGuy
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Today you will likely want both. Tomorrow, well...who knows.
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draganm
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oliverg
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New discs are on their way with HD-DVD on one side and BR on the other.
By which time universal players will be available.
By which time downloadable content will be a major player 
The content war will not be won by us hobbyists, if it is won at all. It will be won by the average consumer.
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Brian Hampton
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Hey,
I'm all about Blu Ray because that's what I bought and I love it.
However,.. If you're thinking about a HD DVD player Sears has a Black Friday Toshiba for $169 and it's a third gen player unlike most of the sub $200 models. It doesn't do 1080p though which can be significant depending on the rest of your system.
If I wasn't already into Blu Ray,.. I think I would buy that cheap 3rd gen player and rent the heck out of HD DVD via Netflix until the war was over. With under $200 out of pocket you can enjoy the format war without fully comiting yourself.
I believe Blu Ray will win the format war because they sell more discs, have more capacity (50GB>30GB), have higher bandwidth, have more companies making players, and have more studios supporting them including Fox (Star Wars) and Disney (Pixar) so it's hard to recommend a HD DVD player but since they can be had for next to nothing and people can rent until the storm is over,.. it's not so hard to recommed after all.
-Brian
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cmjohnson
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Blu-Ray for me. Very soon now. I'll be buying Ratatouille on Blu-Ray (it's not available on HD-DVD) the day it's released,
even though I likely won't have a player until later in the year. I've got to get an HD Fury as well. And I'm revamping my
theater at this time anyway. Frankly I don't expect to watch a movie in my HT for the remainder of this year unless I get bitten
by the motivation bug and get enough time off from work to make it happen.
CJ
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larryk
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The PC combo drive is only 275.00 Now I have some selection to rent a Blockbuster and it's out to find 5th Element today. Now I have an A20 for sale.
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draganm
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| larryk wrote: | | The PC combo drive is only 275.00 Now I have some selection to rent a Blockbuster and it's out to find 5th Element today. Now I have an A20 for sale. |
got a link to that? Do you know if the PC drive with a modern audio card will process lossless audio?
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Chuchuf
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| larryk wrote: | | The PC combo drive is only 275.00 Now I have some selection to rent a Blockbuster and it's out to find 5th Element today. Now I have an A20 for sale. |
Just got one of these so I don't care who wins the format war.
Terry
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stefuel
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| Chuchuf wrote: | | larryk wrote: | | The PC combo drive is only 275.00 Now I have some selection to rent a Blockbuster and it's out to find 5th Element today. Now I have an A20 for sale. |
Just got one of these so I don't care who wins the format war.
Terry |
T-man, what brand and where did you get it? Thanks,
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garyfritz
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| Chuchuf wrote: | | Just got one of these so I don't care who wins the format war. |
My biggest fear is that NEITHER HD/BD format will win -- that they'll keep slugging away at each other, preventing large-scale adoption of EITHER format in the market, until some cheezy low-res downloadable format comes in and takes the market away from them. 
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paw
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| garyfritz wrote: | | Chuchuf wrote: | | Just got one of these so I don't care who wins the format war. |
My biggest fear is that NEITHER HD/BD format will win -- that they'll keep slugging away at each other, preventing large-scale adoption of EITHER format in the market, until some cheezy low-res downloadable format comes in and takes the market away from them. |
Now Gary! That would never happen. Look at the succes of DVDA and SACD vs MP3. 
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Chuchuf
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| stefuel wrote: | | Chuchuf wrote: | | larryk wrote: | | The PC combo drive is only 275.00 Now I have some selection to rent a Blockbuster and it's out to find 5th Element today. Now I have an A20 for sale. |
Just got one of these so I don't care who wins the format war.
Terry |
T-man, what brand and where did you get it? Thanks, |
The LG was just released for about $280 and that's the one I went with.
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=906388
Have watched a few HD DVD movies on it and it works well. Blu Ray next.
Terry
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WanMan
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What is interesting to note is that for me the prerecorded high definition industry is doing a lot better job that the [re]transmission industry--cable and satellite content providers. I have not spent a moment nor a dime to upgrade the method for which paid-for HD content is delivered into my home in almost three years.
I've so far spent $900 on equipment that I own for HD DVD and BD playback and nothing on DBS or cable. Why? Because they over-compress, reduce resolution, and provide mediocre STBs that I pay a handful for, get contractualized heavily, and it stays someone else's equipment.
As such, I can live with this format war for a while longer as the other so-called providers are worthless in my book.
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draganm
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This is total Foobar, I am tired of searching the net for this "LG universal player" that doesn't exist. If someone can post a link to place where you can actuall buy the f*cking thing then we can talk, kay.
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who remembers curcuit city divx disc what a flop
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Darren Wadsworth
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| draganm wrote: | | This is total Foobar, I am tired of searching the net for this "LG universal player" that doesn't exist. If someone can post a link to place where you can actuall buy the f*cking thing then we can talk, kay. |
These things are very elusive (popular). The latest places to have them and sell out (in hours) are/were:
Newegg
PcAlchemy
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nuttall_chris
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| draganm wrote: | | This is total Foobar, I am tired of searching the net for this "LG universal player" that doesn't exist. If someone can post a link to place where you can actuall buy the f*cking thing then we can talk, kay. |
Check these guys out. I don't know if they have them in stock but I spoke with them a week or so ago before I bought mine from NCIX and they said they could get me one if I ordered it.
http://www.pccyber.com/?v=Product&i=DVDRW-LG-GGC-H20L
Chris.
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