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oliverg
Joined: 15 May 2007
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Location: Melbourne, Australia
TV/Projector: Sony G90 X2 - Vidikron Vision 1
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| Posted: Wed Oct 17, 2007 7:50 am Post subject: The start of the blended double stack |
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Or maybe just a stack.
Now all I have to do is convince Mike Parker that doing G90 mods will be worthwhile for him. (and us G90 owners)
The second G90 arrived. I opened it up and that amazing smell of "new projector" wafted over me. It still has the fault (I think in the deflection board) with the wavy text but we'll pull the board out of the other G90 and work our way through the problem from there. Tubes and chassis have a measly 300 hours on them. Total.
With any luck, the boards will just need to be cleaned and reseated. Maybe replace the Dallas chip while we're at it 
Anyway,ladies and gentlemen, presenting - the only pair of Japanese twins to one day grace my celing, the amazing two projectors named Romulus and Remus. (Strange girls names yes, but the orignial names of Akiao and Nakita didn't sound right....)
The only pair of G90s in Australia!
I'm still working out whether to stack or blend - it will probably be a stack. I don't want too wide, I want around 120-150" but bright with excellent blacks and contrast.
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I'm happy for you, but sorry, you SUCK! Even though you 'just' have two G90's and not a nice set of 909's 
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oliverg
Joined: 15 May 2007
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Location: Melbourne, Australia
TV/Projector: Sony G90 X2 - Vidikron Vision 1
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| Posted: Wed Oct 17, 2007 9:27 am Post subject: |
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I really would like to do a shootout between the big 3.... you know, the G90, the 909 and ....
An Ampro 4600!
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rabies_70
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CRICKEY YOU SUCK 
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overclkr
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Awesome!!!!!
Godspeed in getting the broken one up and running! How are the tubes?
Cliff
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Curt Palme
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In sad but related incident, Oliver managed to lose most of his penis in a bizarre gardening accident.
(sorry, but that popped into my head, and the only way to get it out of my head was to put it in print).
YOU SO SUCK!
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oliverg
Joined: 15 May 2007
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Location: Melbourne, Australia
TV/Projector: Sony G90 X2 - Vidikron Vision 1
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You guys crack me up  Totally!
The tubes only have 300 hours on them - its almost brand new!
What I'm about to tell you I don't do for sympathy , but to warn everyone.
You know how you all think I suck, well sure I got them at a good price, but man have they cost me. There are a lot of hidden costs in importing PJs into this country. There are new shipping laws in the US where if the seller isn't a "known" seller, the cost goes up through the roof. Freight has to go via a freight aircraft (not a passenger aircraft).
On top of this, when I went to organise "door to airport", there is some new law here where you can't do your own customs paperwork (as an individual) - you have to get an agent to do it. At 85% of the cost of door to door, there's not the old savings like the old days.
Get this (I just sent the invoice to Curt so his jaw could hit the floor) A single G90 (in a crate) cost just shy of $2500.00 to ship from New York (Long Island) to Melbourne. No joke, this was the cheapest quote by far. EagleGL (who I used when Curt sent me the 1209) were almost 3k. With the $AUD at 90C US right now many of the frieght aircraft are full and there's a 2 month wait. There are some forwarders charging $8-$10 per kilogram. (A G90 with crate weighs 181 kilos).
Apparently the "known" shipper issue in the USA is due to terrorism.
If anyone knows any way to move our projectors around the world cheaply, I'd love to know!
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Chuchuf
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I guess I'm a "known" shipper cause I have been using Pilot Air for intl shipments for years. While the cost to ship have certainly gone up they act as the agent for me on outbound and I don't believe that there are these outragous fees on the receiving side. All I do is get a quite from them here in Atlanta (I deal with the same girl for every shipment) and drop the freight off with the commercial invoice. Typically to go to Europe (Airport to Airport) with 400 lb shipment runs $350 - $400 w/ insurance.
Shipping Down Under has ALWAYS been a LOT more expensive. Around $600- $750 to ship the same weight. Which doesn't make sense because Hong Kong is less expensive.
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oliverg
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Hi Terry - that's some great information.
AFAIK, as a business, I think you are automatically "known". For us poor "individuals" who have to import things from the US from other individuals, its hell. When sellers insist that the buyer organises the shipping is when the issues occur. You're not one of those lazy people like that Curt Palme character that want buyers to organise their own freight 
For anyone who does a lot of importing from individuals in the USA, these laws are going to be a trifle inconvenient.
I've come up with a temporary solution - we can have sellers mail us our projectors, one piece at a time. A G90 can be split into 3210 seperate parts. A Marquee 9500LC Ultra varies between 2000 parts nad 3 parts depedning on who is dividing it up. A Barco 909 is in a monococque frame and has to be mailed in one piece.
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Blend! Blend! And again - Blend! We need more people with experience in blending. Mainly because, someday, I hope to blend. Plus, I just got a notice from TVONE that they've updated their scaler firmware (including that for the C2-260), adding improvements in blending. Maybe they've included the suggestions submitted by MadMrH.
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oliverg
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I do want to at least experiment with blending before I make any hard decisions. I consider how good Gino's setup is and I wonder about how much better it would be if he used G90s. Or Ampros.
*ducks*
Seriously though, I will at least try a blend. Then I'll try a rough stack (rough = me doing the config, not Ken). The thing is, a stack that isn't set up "just so" doesn't really come close to one that has been done properly. I believe a blend is actually a little easier to set-up if the 'blender' tool is up to the job. There is something to be said about having 4:3 phosphor usage across all 6 tubes too.
I'm hoping that new dedicated blender of TVOne becomes available. If it does, I'll get one on evaluation and try it out. If MadMrH had as much input as I think he did, it will be an outstanding product. Then there's the possible Crystalio 2 'blender' upgrade that might happen soon. Not to mention the Anchor Bay's alternative
I haven't rulled out Blendzilla either. Sure it costs more, but its a known product that works - Tim offers great support and there are a lot of happy people out there with 'zillas. But all this is on hold until I am in a new house.
Trying all possible solutions (as much as one can) and then making a decision will be the way I'm going to handle it
Will probably have the most fun (or heartache) in the process too!
Kind regards
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ecrabb
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| Posted: Wed Oct 17, 2007 3:28 pm Post subject: |
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Oliver,
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Congrats and good luck with the funky one. I'm more than a little jealous.
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oliverg
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Thanks eCrabb - this hasn't been an easy ride! There was a lot of uncertainty there for a while.
But I had a lot of support from some very cool people here (and even on the A site). Thank you to all of you. (you know who you are)
One day, I hope I can repay some of the kindness that's been shown to me by hosting an "Oceanic" meet.
I would insist that -everyone- bring a PJ (in the spirit of a shootout).
Mysteriously, all of you would end up missing - but not after writing me into your collective wills and leaving me all your projectors and a Miata.
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| oliverg wrote: | I do want to at least experiment with blending before I make any hard decisions. I consider how good Gino's setup is and I wonder about how much better it would be if he used G90s. Or Ampros.
*ducks*
Seriously though, I will at least try a blend. Then I'll try a rough stack (rough = me doing the config, not Ken). The thing is, a stack that isn't set up "just so" doesn't really come close to one that has been done properly. I believe a blend is actually a little easier to set-up if the 'blender' tool is up to the job. There is something to be said about having 4:3 phosphor usage across all 6 tubes too.
I'm hoping that new dedicated blender of TVOne becomes available. If it does, I'll get one on evaluation and try it out. If MadMrH had as much input as I think he did, it will be an outstanding product. Then there's the possible Crystalio 2 'blender' upgrade that might happen soon. Not to mention the Anchor Bay's alternative
I haven't rulled out Blendzilla either. Sure it costs more, but its a known product that works - Tim offers great support and there are a lot of happy people out there with 'zillas. But all this is on hold until I am in a new house.
Trying all possible solutions (as much as one can) and then making a decision will be the way I'm going to handle it
Will probably have the most fun (or heartache) in the process too!
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If I didn't know better, I'd say someone is trying to start another POS G-90 debate
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| stefuel wrote: | | oliverg wrote: | I do want to at least experiment with blending before I make any hard decisions. I consider how good Gino's setup is and I wonder about how much better it would be if he used G90s. Or Ampros.
*ducks*
Seriously though, I will at least try a blend. Then I'll try a rough stack (rough = me doing the config, not Ken). The thing is, a stack that isn't set up "just so" doesn't really come close to one that has been done properly. I believe a blend is actually a little easier to set-up if the 'blender' tool is up to the job. There is something to be said about having 4:3 phosphor usage across all 6 tubes too.
I'm hoping that new dedicated blender of TVOne becomes available. If it does, I'll get one on evaluation and try it out. If MadMrH had as much input as I think he did, it will be an outstanding product. Then there's the possible Crystalio 2 'blender' upgrade that might happen soon. Not to mention the Anchor Bay's alternative
I haven't rulled out Blendzilla either. Sure it costs more, but its a known product that works - Tim offers great support and there are a lot of happy people out there with 'zillas. But all this is on hold until I am in a new house.
Trying all possible solutions (as much as one can) and then making a decision will be the way I'm going to handle it
Will probably have the most fun (or heartache) in the process too!
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If I didn't know better, I'd say someone is trying to start another POS G-90 debate |
When you finally break down and just admit that the G90 is the best CRT projector ever made then you will be blessed and go to heaven. 
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Ok, enough bull-sh*t! Why don't you g90 fly-boys go off and start your own "I SUCK" club.
Oh sh*t! That would include Curt, and well, he is the main reason for this site, uh, well, never eff'ing mind. 
All I can say is, "Ya'll suck".
(damn lucky bastards!)
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| oliverg wrote: | I do want to at least experiment with blending before I make any hard decisions.
Seriously though, I will at least try a blend. Then I'll try a rough stack (rough = me doing the config, not Ken). The thing is, a stack that isn't set up "just so" doesn't really come close to one that has been done properly. I believe a blend is actually a little easier to set-up if the 'blender' tool is up to the job.
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Congradulations, how's your fathers back BTW?
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| oliverg wrote: | | I consider how good Gino's setup is and I wonder about how much better it would be if he used G90s. |
There may be something to this if my CRT's still resembled a stock marquee.
btw, welcome to the club YOU SUCK
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oliverg
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The funny thing is Gino - is that your machines are now more G90 than they are Marquee!!!!
hehe
Analog - thank you for asking - the last G90 was carried upstairs by the shipping company. So dad is fine!!
Come on Mike - start doing G90 mods! We'll show those Marquee owners a thing or two!
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