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ncc1701d
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| Posted: Thu Oct 04, 2007 12:09 am Post subject: New barco 1208 tubes?? |
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Does VDC still sell 180DVB22 tubes?
If not, where can i get a new blue or a rebuilt? or perhaps a set of 3 new mec tubes?
OR if there are better tubes that fit (i'm not afraid to modify a neckboard)
I live in sweden so i need shipping also..
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Curt Palme
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VDC is the only place. I talked to Charlie today.
VDC is now making tubes exclusively, Panasonic has stopped making tubes. VDC bought all of the raw materials, but they didn't bring any of the equipment over apparently.
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Chuchuf
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I have them available new MEC (I have to check to see if I have DMB's or DVB's which are Bacro). These are not rebuilds but new factory MEC tubes.
Sets are $1200, individual tubes are $450. I have quite a few but have been so busy w/ 9" tubes that I haven't really paid attention to the 8"ers.
This is for the raw tube. Mounting the tube in your housing is $100/tube w/ new glycol. You send me your old tube, I do the R&R.
You can email me at terfer@comcast.net or call 404-557-6351
Sorry for the ad Curt and Kal.
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ncc1701d
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| Curt Palme wrote: | VDC is the only place. I talked to Charlie today.
VDC is now making tubes exclusively, Panasonic has stopped making tubes. VDC bought all of the raw materials, but they didn't bring any of the equipment over apparently. |
What does this mean for us/me, that they didn't bring equipment?
And does it mean the sell "real" tubes and not rebuilts now?
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ncc1701d
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| Chuchuf wrote: | I have them available new MEC (I have to check to see if I have DMB's or DVB's which are Bacro). These are not rebuilds but new factory MEC tubes.
Sets are $1200, individual tubes are $450. I have quite a few but have been so busy w/ 9" tubes that I haven't really paid attention to the 8"ers.
This is for the raw tube. Mounting the tube in your housing is $100/tube w/ new glycol. You send me your old tube, I do the R&R.
You can email me at terfer@comcast.net or call 404-557-6351
Sorry for the ad Curt and Kal.
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Did you have a new P16LNP03 blue tube (your sell ad) ?? Smaller spotsize on them what i understand? that means better image?
Hmm i do not want to fiddle with returns of tubes as i live in sweden. And what do you mean glycol? i have no glycol in my tubes.
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| ncc1701d wrote: | | Curt Palme wrote: | VDC is the only place. I talked to Charlie today.
VDC is now making tubes exclusively, Panasonic has stopped making tubes. VDC bought all of the raw materials, but they didn't bring any of the equipment over apparently. |
What does this mean for us/me, that they didn't bring equipment?
And does it mean the sell "real" tubes and not rebuilts now? |
The production techniques are fairly common, so rather than stand up a new production line an existing line will have been adapted to make the Panny tubes. Since VDC has cornered the (remaining) market for CRTs, they already have production lines for several different tube brands.
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Z-Photo
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Technical the glycol is in the space between the glass front plate and the CRT tube face created by the CRT tube mounting hardware. There is NO glycol in the CRT tube itself - as it is a vacuum in there.
What Terry is talking about - the 'bare' tube is shipped without any mounting harware - this has to be bonded on (rtv) and after curing glycol is added to the subject space.
You can also buy complete assemblies - that have the mounting harware already attached (aka bonded). TheGOV tends to buy the complete tube/magnetic assemblies - as that is a direct and easy (but expensive) swap.
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ncc1701d
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| Dave Lister wrote: | | ncc1701d wrote: |
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And what do you mean glycol? i have no glycol in my tubes. |
There has to be glycol in your tubes or they will burn, it is a coolant, it is in a glass envelope on the front of the tube for AC tubes and in a large cooling chamber on the front of the tube for LC tubes. |
I thougt it only was older/smaller tubes that had glycol. My old sony 1020 had it and there was a little airbubble to allow expansion/contraction of the fluid.
But i did not know that there is glycol in the MEC tubes, as i have never seen any bubbles in them. Or heard/read that there is it in them.
Are you absolutely sure? because i thought the were cooled by the fans.
I have ordered a rebuilt tube from VDC a couple of years ago, and it was just to slip it in, nothing about "mounting assemblies etc." for that one.
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the tube would not "slip in" without the mounting hardware on the front (the metal square} and behind the glass on the front of that metal section is a space filled with glycol...and then the actual outer surface of the tube face.The tube would quickly crack or the phosphor would be overheated and toasted without the glycol to cool the tube face. However there was a case awhile back of a fellow who could not focus a new tube and it turned out he had received a tube without glycol in the chamber.... some CRT geek nailed that problem on his first guess.
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ncc1701d
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I have mailed VDC a couple of days ago but not got any answer yet 
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ncc1701d
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| Posted: Tue Oct 09, 2007 11:58 pm Post subject: Still no answer from VDC :( |
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I have still not got any answer from them, have they stopped making business with "poor" people, and only do big business?
Or do i need to mailbomb them to get answers?
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Call - you get better response
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ncc1701d
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I am VERY poor att speaking english as i am swedish, so calling them is not an option for me. it as also very expensive to call USA from sweden.
I have mailed them AGAIN, still no answer..
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Curt Palme
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Try emailing Terry above. He's a solid guy. Also, I've got the Retro sets with ~3000 hour tubes with no visible wear in LC housings that could be de-siliconed and remounted into your metal frames if you want. I could sell you the tubes only and keep the chassis for parts if you want. Shipping of the whole chassis would be about $450 to Sweden.
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If you have not seen the Barco retro thread - these have the P16 tubes (high res) in them that are exact replacements for the 1208 tubes (bare tube) after the removal of the tube hardware. I would recommend that you buy from Terry or Curt (if you do not get a response from VDC)
https://www.curtpalme.com/forum_archived/viewtopic.php@t=7035.html
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ncc1701d
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I would like a new P16 tube if that is better then 180dvb22 tubes, but i want it complete to mount in my pj.
I don't want any hazzle with mounting metalframe/glycol myself, and no returnshipping of parts..
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Curt Palme
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Check with Terry, but finding new P16s is nearly impossible.
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oliverg
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At the price Curt's offering retro sets for, that's probably the best option - and you would have lots of spares too! 
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ncc1701d
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Ok but i already have a 1208 as a spare 
But i vill think about it.
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