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klover



Joined: 30 Sep 2006
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Location: Winnipeg, Manitoba

Posted: Thu Aug 23, 2007 12:51 am    Post subject:

JustGreg wrote:
klover wrote:
Nothing ghetto-ish about those shots. Reminds me of my first ECP projector...minimal experience, huge expectations, and lots of fun.
I've since moved on (by not up) to cheap Infocus IN72 projectors (I found a bunch at a ridiculous blow-out cost) and will run them for awhile until I can find a good EM CRT for cheap.

So are you blending or stacking those light sabers? Twisted Evil Probably not I guess...your screen would have to be made of asbestos or space shuttle tiles. Laughing
Sorry. Couldn't resist. Embarassed I don't know what your budget is but EM's are pretty freeking affordable right now... unless you're looking for a niner.

Greg


People keep telling me this. I keep asking "where". They don't answer.
If EMs are freaking cheap I'm not finding them.

The closest EM was three Province's away and the seller didn't want to ship. That was the first I'd found in 3 months minus the Ebay garbage.

I had nothing but problems with my ECP from start to finish. It was fun by a lot of work. The IN72, on the other hand, lacks the resolution and CR but has been rock-steady reliable and the picture is quite nice for the $300 CDN or so they end up costing me (w/new bulbs).
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jask



Joined: 17 Mar 2006
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Posted: Thu Aug 23, 2007 3:15 am    Post subject:

Great work! man you have really focused on the obsession.
It is easy to look at some of the dream system screen shots and lust for a 909,G90,XG135lc etc......hell some guys even - Ampro!
Most of us start small and move up,and your shots could really help someone who is on the fence,entry level machines are getting better and better but your system looks great and is within the realm of almost anyone who has space and place.
Thanks for the pics
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pfloydphanatic



Joined: 26 Jan 2007
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Posted: Thu Aug 23, 2007 3:37 am    Post subject:

yeah and i have great DTS/DD sound system to go with it. i did it all on a budget too. Smile and yes it is an obsession hehe.
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jask



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Posted: Thu Aug 23, 2007 8:07 am    Post subject:

pfloydphanatic wrote:
yeah and i have great DTS/DD sound system to go with it. i did it all on a budget too. Smile and yes it is an obsession hehe.

lets hear about that, what did you put together?
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Posted: Thu Aug 23, 2007 2:23 pm    Post subject:

pfloydphanatic wrote:
still can't get rid of that blue peaking out from the lower right hand corner there always seems to be one corner that is a little off, but most of the image is beautiful.


Maybe you need little yoke adjustment (for blue tube)
Here is picture what needs to be adjust. before that you must set all blue gonvergence trimmers to mid point
that yoke can be stuck, but normally you can get it movable just by rotating it back and fort ( and off course loose that clamp before)
use testpattern that has horisontal line and adjust yoke until blue hor.line is same as red and green.
But be carefull there is high voltages near your fingers.
http://www.dvdplaza.fi/forums/showpost.php?p=914209&postcount=2

And sorry for my bad english.I hope that you get sense...

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pfloydphanatic



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Posted: Thu Aug 23, 2007 4:12 pm    Post subject:

hmm... ok, the high voltages are a little bit scary for me though. i think i'll leave it alone. it looks fine really. but thanks for the help and info. maybe someday i'll give it a try.


but the audio components i have are:

a pair of bose 201 series IV speakers B set.
pair of Fisher studio monitor DS 811 speakers A set.
cerwin vega center channel LS 5C
KLH 100watt 10 inch sub ASW10 - 100C
pair of audio source speakers for surrounds.. cheapies from fleabay.

DVDO iscan plus V2 line doubler
Barco RCVDS QUAD video switcher (which i haven't got to use yet, i'm waiting for a bnc RGBS BNC cable to run to my projector.... anybody know where i can get a manual on this or know how it works?) i figured i could tweak my projector that way.. the contrast pot on my PJ is up all the way and the color and tint controls do nothing when i turn them with using my line doubler.

Pioneer VSX - D409 500watt DTS/DD receiver
LG DN191H DVD player nice dvd player plays divx, mp3s, jpegs... pretty much everything Smile
Sony DVP - NC600 DVD player for playing cds.. its a sucky dvd player but a fine cd player. my parents got tired of it playing dvds half way through then going back to the begginning so they gave it to me. so now i have two dvd players hehe. but i dont even have the video hooked up to anything.
Panasonic PV-9450 HIFI stereo VCR
TCWR545 Sony tape deck
Fisher MT- 32 turntable
XBOX.... i guess that about says it, no need for a model number



EDIT: i was so proud when i finally got a genuine monster cable for my sub.. and an AR tos link cable for my digital cable. that cable is beautiful, its all silvery and shiny(too bad its stuck in the back of my equipment rack/book shelf thing where you can't see it.) .. i want more Smile mmmm lol


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wkomassa



Joined: 21 Aug 2007
Posts: 101
Location: Brookfield, WI

Posted: Fri Aug 24, 2007 12:40 am    Post subject:

Hey I think you might be able to unlock that LG to upconvert to 1080i over component... I think - check on google for LG 191 HDCP code and such... It's one of those models.

Anyways, nice work! I know my three-eyed basement monster scares a lot of people, but I think it's pretty cool!
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pfloydphanatic



Joined: 26 Jan 2007
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Posted: Fri Aug 24, 2007 1:24 am    Post subject:

yes... it is an up converting dvd player. i can do 1080i... BUT i don't have any 1080i display device... yet. whuahahaha.. my line doubler only has a svideo and composite inputs though, i'd like one that has component but most are expensive.

anywho ... thanks very much for the compliments.. and yes. i def do love the three eyed monster(best thing since sliced bread i say, actually sliced bread isn't very good, mostly air.. i found out from watching good eats [fav show] hehe) .... i can't believe i didnt do this years ago.. just for the economical reasons is enough to go to crt. i prob wasnt ready to go this route. i had a projection panel for so many years.. then a d igital... but the lamp didnt last l ong.. i'd like to bring back the projection panel and compare the quality side by side.. i would deff be blown away i'm sure!
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wkomassa



Joined: 21 Aug 2007
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Location: Brookfield, WI

Posted: Fri Aug 24, 2007 1:35 am    Post subject:

Since I don't think Curt sells cables, I think i'm safe to tell you that you should look at partsexpress.com for cabling.

They have several lines which aren't Monster, but in terms of aesthetics and performance will be equal to or better. That, and you can get them for probably 30% of the cost! Again -- good luck.

One of these days I'll take some pictures and post them up here. Hmmm... maybe now. Packers on in HD Very Happy
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pfloydphanatic



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Posted: Fri Aug 24, 2007 1:56 am    Post subject:

LOL that link might be mistaken for a porn site depending on the way you think. Razz
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REGNAD



Joined: 15 Oct 2006
Posts: 173
Location: RICHMOND VA

Posted: Fri Aug 24, 2007 4:28 am    Post subject:

watch out! you may be in the market for your next upgrade sooner than you plan for! "Shocked the contrast pot on my PJ is up all the way Shocked" Looks like you may dabble with pc's, check into HTPC's. I was extremely impressed with my improvements when i switched to HTPC.............nice Avatar




pfloydphanatic wrote:
hmm... ok, the high voltages are a little bit scary for me though. i think i'll leave it alone. it looks fine really. but thanks for the help and info. maybe someday i'll give it a try.


but the audio components i have are:

a pair of bose 201 series IV speakers B set.
pair of Fisher studio monitor DS 811 speakers A set.
cerwin vega center channel LS 5C
KLH 100watt 10 inch sub ASW10 - 100C
pair of audio source speakers for surrounds.. cheapies from fleabay.

DVDO iscan plus V2 line doubler
Barco RCVDS QUAD video switcher (which i haven't got to use yet, i'm waiting for a bnc RGBS BNC cable to run to my projector.... anybody know where i can get a manual on this or know how it works?) i figured i could tweak my projector that way.. Shocked the contrast pot on my PJ is up all the way Shocked and the color and tint controls do nothing when i turn them with using my line doubler.

Pioneer VSX - D409 500watt DTS/DD receiver
LG DN191H DVD player nice dvd player plays divx, mp3s, jpegs... pretty much everything Smile
Sony DVP - NC600 DVD player for playing cds.. its a sucky dvd player but a fine cd player. my parents got tired of it playing dvds half way through then going back to the begginning so they gave it to me. so now i have two dvd players hehe. but i dont even have the video hooked up to anything.
Panasonic PV-9450 HIFI stereo VCR
TCWR545 Sony tape deck
Fisher MT- 32 turntable
XBOX.... i guess that about says it, no need for a model number



EDIT: i was so proud when i finally got a genuine monster cable for my sub.. and an AR tos link cable for my digital cable. that cable is beautiful, its all silvery and shiny(too bad its stuck in the back of my equipment rack/book shelf thing where you can't see it.) .. i want more Smile mmmm lol

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Posted: Fri Aug 24, 2007 6:16 am    Post subject:

pfloydphanatic wrote:
hmm... ok, the high voltages are a little bit scary for me though. i think i'll leave it alone. it looks fine really. but thanks for the help and info. maybe someday i'll give it a try.



You can adjust it safer if you want: Power off->loose yoke clamp->loose yoke so it is just movable-> adjust blue convergence trimmers to midpoint. -> power on-> internalpattern-> note how hor.blue line (at center) is compaired to other colors-> pow.off...wait...wait -> adjust yoke-> pow. on and see how hor.blue line (at center) is compaired to other colors-> pow off-> wait...-> adjust yoke...etc until blue is parallel to other colors-> tight clamp again -> regonvergence
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pfloydphanatic



Joined: 26 Jan 2007
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Posted: Fri Aug 24, 2007 6:16 am    Post subject:

yeah... the composite was much more contrasty than the RGB... which is why i figured all i would need is a line doubler with a contrast control so i could treak it better. on the HTPC... i don't really do PC heh... i switched to mac. but i know what you mean. but i like my stand alone dvd player. not that my movies don't have enough contrast... i personally think they look perfect. but it would be nice to eff with the color and contrast co ntrols now and then to get a bit different look. i guess my iscan does everything just right so it doesnt have any controls on it. i might get one of those Viewsonic Nextvision things. it scales up to 1280X1024 or something.. just so it doesnt go above 480p for my current setup. i dont want to fry my PJ. that has onscreen menus for contrast and color, etc. they can be found on ebay for cheap. it also has a tv tuner which is nice. i just don't know how well of a line doubler it is.

and thats a good idea on the yokes... i looked like behind the necks of the tubes and i see where to adjust the yokes... but i guess i have to pull that board thats sitting above it first. i haven't tackled that yet, maybe i'll take some pics sometime of a grid (not now though... its a bit late, kind of spent) , maybe you can tell me if thats what my convergence problem is. its always a liiiillllll bit off on one of the corners. not very noticable though. can drive ya a bit crazy.. esp me cuz i'm kind of a perfectionist when it comes ot stuff like this.. i'm sure everybody here is pretty much Wink


some screenshots from the Svideo out on my g4 powerbook.. the color is just amazing on this thing though. these are just desktop images on the second display. my camera can't pick up all the nuances of the images. but its an idea. i have a shot of grid. you can see the convergence stuff...

the bit uneven-ness is the black cloth i'm using to make the screen sort of stand out more. i had a hard time getting it straight.









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Posted: Fri Aug 24, 2007 7:13 am    Post subject:

Here is also good info how to "level" yokes:
http://www.curtpalme.com/Yoke.shtm

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ZP9FEFXV5c
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AnalogRocks
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Posted: Sat Aug 25, 2007 4:16 am    Post subject:

Say is your Blue a little too defocused?
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Posted: Sat Aug 25, 2007 5:32 am    Post subject:

you think?
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Posted: Sat Aug 25, 2007 5:44 am    Post subject:

Looks that way. Have you found the electronic focus controls?
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Posted: Sat Aug 25, 2007 5:47 am    Post subject:

yeah, they should be focused good, i didnt readjust them after i upgraded my new lenses because i didnt think they needed it
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Posted: Sat Aug 25, 2007 5:51 am    Post subject:

refocus the blue so it's a nice tight beam then just *slightly* defocus it ( you need to do this to make the colors look good ). It may help you.
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Posted: Sat Aug 25, 2007 5:58 am    Post subject:

hmm.. yeah i think it was a bit out of focus, i think it was the beam focus, not the optical
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