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[Gary M.]

so that is a EMS type service pretty much sounds like

thanks Kal

-Gary

[Tacky]

Thank you all for speedy replies

Moome Also replied to my email - this is what he said:
I've added my reply/comments in italics under each point

1. all the XG card has no sound output now, sorry for this
well what a bugger I wanted to use it. It does however look like it might be possible to buy the jack and solder it on? It looks like there are 4 posts on the pcb in the 'beta' version spot. any thoughts from the beta testers on doing this myself?

2. new version datasheet attached
Updated Manual Loaded onto my local ISP webspace for all to use

3. please refer the manual for remote key function
I've since read the manual and the posts here and thank you for your assistance, I know now what the few working buttons on the remote do!

4. did you select hdmi0 with remote or push botton? and have you try other dvd player?
I was sitting on the right hand side of the PJ and didn't even notice the 'sel' button. Works a charm with both a toshiba XA2 (now flashed to XE1 for Australia) and a new Popcorn Hour A-100

do you like the picture that using XG-FULLHD?
yes very much so in the limited testing I have done. I have not yet tweaked with the gamma or contrast adjustments as the PJ is not installed in its final location

any other problem, just let me know!
what a damned nice guy! Thanks moome for a great product and speedy customer service!

What are other peoples experiences with this card?

[Gary M.]

moome is the best for sure

thanks a bunch for that manual dude, much appreciated, I am sure Kal will upload it for you so you can remove it from your space

I was also wondering about the contrast pot myself, I take it this is a basic voltage type thing and it is best to leave it at the normal .7 position which seems to be all the way down (CCW)?

wonder what moome sets this to before shipping?, he says professional user adjustment only on the manual

-Gary

[dbaisey]

[kal]

[kal]

[Gary M.]

so no one else has any reviews or feedback or etc., I am amazed at how little chat there is

I have been waiting ages for a 10-bit 4:2:2 HDMI input on my 1352LC for the VP50pro scaler

-Gary

[dropzone7]

[Gary M.]

thanks drop, will be glad to give feedback/review as I do have one on the way

the original DVI card from moome was very good, I loved it in fact, can't wait to see this one

-Gary

[MikeEby]

I have been in conversations with JuzWerkz who is only about an hour from me. I was going to see how the card looks on his setup and perhaps compare it to the digital vs analog output on my HTPC.

Mike

[dropzone7]

[Gary M.]

[Gary M.]

[meski]

I received my HDMI card today and I love it!

The picture is much better than what I was seeing previously.

I was using a HDFury with my Sony BD300 and VP30 and was never very happy with it. Now I have the VP30 plugged directly into the new HDMI card and the picture is sensational.

Couldn't believe how easy it was to install and setup.

Thanks Moome!!

Rob

[Gary M.]

I received my Moome XG-FullHD today and have been working with it all day, I have some very exciting things to say about it but before we get to that I need to discuss something

this is my first experience with a gamma adjustment and so far it is not what I expected it to be, that or I am doing something very wrong

I started with the gamma pot turned CCW about 30 times, the remote was then used to lower the gamma as far down as it would go, meaning no more change, after this assuming the gamma is as low as possible I proceded to set brightness and contrast, once these are set to suite me I then moved back to gamma, from what I can tell the gamma control is acting like nothing but another brightness adjustment, after the brightness was set I added 5 clicks on the remote of + gamma, this changed the image alot, including the full 0IRE black which was my brightness adjustment, so brightness needed to be lowered back to set black level, well gone was the gamma adjustment change, so again with correct black level I added 5 more clicks of + gamma, again image changed and lower IRE's were brought up some, but so was 0IRE black, meaning the fade to black, black level etc. is again hosed

with the gamma adjustment as far down as it would go (pot CCW 25+ times plus remote all the way down) and brightness set correctly with that there is no difference in the lower IRE's with the gamma +20 clicks and then brightness set correctly for that level, not one thing different

so basically putting the gamma control to work testing it on a 0IRE pattern changes it with each click of the adjustment

-Gary

[Gary M.]

I monkeyed with this some more and might have made some gains, it required taking the gamma adjustment pretty high and then recalibrating everything from scratch

I will post some thoughts on this card tomorrow or so, as of right now I am very very pleased with what I see

going from the moome DVI I had to simply make a new block and source copy from my old block, everything moved over nearly perfect, I had to redo greyscale because the card is different and brightness needed adjusting, for best results be prepared to do alot of tweaking and recalibrating

-Gary

[JuzWerkz]

[jarseneau]

[dbaisey]

I'm glad to see some of these reviews being posted. I have some to do but just one that has in hand and not quite ready. Others waiting on what is being posted, others got tired of waiting. I think it would be a benefit for the ones that do have to post as well as how they are sending the HDMI signal and what the final settings and tweaks work the best.

Im more interested in the HDMI source straight to the card without processing on a big scale vrs with to get a better feel what is happening in case things need to be corrected. If so Moome needs to know as fast as possible.

[Gary M.]

guys here are some thoughts on this card, first of all I must say that it is a true work of art from moome, amazing in every way possible, here is why:

for years now I have been stuck feeding my 1352LC a RGB 8-bit DVI signal from my DVDO VP50 and then VP50pro scaler, the problem is that these scalers(and sources as well) can deliver 10-bit 4:2:2 YPbPr HDMI signals, the gains from this are enormous, better color resolution, reduced gradients to a level that are all but gone(we have said for years that gradients are not a issue on CRT, well see this card with a 10-bit signal and the same can't be said), improved CR and just a all around better image

I will simply say this to make believers out of everyone, with the new HDMI moome card and my VP50pro outputting 4:2:2 YPbPr HDMI I have a image that has improved in nearly every manner that the RS2 bettered my 1352lc in my review over at the HTF, the RS2 bettered the 1352lc in many ways because it was being fed a 10-bit 4:2:2 YPbPr HDMI signal, the gains from this are huge

the crispness of the image has improved alot as well, the image is naturally sharper vs the older DVI card which looks slightly edgy in comparison(this is seen easily on DVDO setup menus and test patterns), I really do think the key here is the 10-bit 4:2:2 YPbPr signal from my VP50pro, if you cannot input this signal to the card I don't know if I would bother with it or not

color resolution and naturalness has improved so much it is unbelievable, I am so thankful to be able to get this card for my XG, it was worth every penny and more, if you have a high-end system that can feed it a 10-bit 4:2:2 YPbPr signal I would get one of these NOW!!!

gamma has not even been discussed as well either, but I am kinda liking what I am seeing there as well I set my pot to 25 turns CCW for the lowest setting, currently I am 2 clicks down from as far as you can go with the remote, 18 + clicks, after recalibrating I have a image that looks slightly different than what I am used to, the lower end is brighter thru the lower ire range, it has taken some viewing for a bit to see if I like this or not, it is my opinion that the gamma may be going slightly higher up the range than needed, giving the image a bit too much of a boosted look, 30ire area maybe

the lower end, 10ire and below, is lite up a bit more with this adjustment, it is not night and day, maybe I am playing with this wrong, but again I want to make clear, when you adjust the gamma up, a full black pattern at 0IRE is going up in brightness as you go and needs to be readjusted for each click, otherwise you have a gray 0IRE, maybe I misunderstood gamma, but everything I have read about these adjustments says they don't effect 0IRE (Kal's Gamma guide sticky for example), this is not what is happening on my end

the way things seem to me is that there is a cutoff point and the entire gamma is adjusted below that from say 30IRE down to 0IRE, this entire range swings in relation to the range above that, requiring a brightness adjustment and then you have what you have

I think we need a explanation from moome on this and how it should work, I understand what Jerry and Doug are saying but I am just not getting this entirely and would love to work more, but as is I am pretty happy sitting at a fully CCW pot (25 turns) and +18 on the remote

-Gary

[dropzone7]