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JuzWerkz · Posted: Wed Jul 02, 2008 7:03 pm Post subject:

I did pick up and install my XG FullHD card last night and create a new input. It did throw a picture. I did not have time to go through a full setup so I can't make any real judgements about it, but it did seem darker than my other card. I may have to turn the brightness up a bit once I've done a complete setup on it and converged it. What really bummed me out about it is that I still wasn't able to get my PS3 to work with it via HDMI. I have a DVDO iScan VP30 in between my PS3 and my projector, all connected by HDMI cables. The cable from the VP30 to the Moome card is a long, AC powered repeater cable, and the VP30 has HDCP compliant software in it. The reason I bought the FullHD card was because the DVI card I had wouldn't give the HDCP handshake back to the VP30, so the VP30 closes a curtain over the picture whenever I try to use the PS3. Now with the new card installed, it is still doing that. Kal, Moome or Jerry, is there a setup variable in the new card that will lock or synch the HDCP signal from the card back to the VP30 so I can use my PS3 in HDMI?

thanks,

cj

**kal** · Posted: Wed Jul 02, 2008 9:15 pm Post subject:

jarseneau · Joined: 06 Nov 2007 Posts: 323 Location: WI

JuzWerkz · Posted: Wed Jul 02, 2008 9:47 pm Post subject:

dbaisey · Posted: Thu Jul 03, 2008 3:47 pm Post subject:

Might check the PS3 HDMI output settings, shut off 1080P/24. Doug

LanceL · Joined: 21 Jan 2008 Posts: 13

I also received my Moome card...very quick install/setup and first impressions are that it is noticbly sharper than my fury/RTC2200 setup...it is also a bit darker.
As a side note, I also used a friends ps3 (Blueray and std def) as one test source and it worked fine.

My problem, however. is I'm not sure if my gamma is working properly....I can turn the screw out 20-30 turns counterclockwise and see no difference from as it arrived...additionally, I dont seem to have normal function from the remote,,,,,I get a red led flickering when I keep pressing the + or - for the gamma on the remote but the yellow led is lit and stays lit (solid) no matter what I do on the remote...and , of course, I dont see any change in the gamma

Certainly, it is possible that I might not see gamma change util I redo contrast and brightness....but I dont think my adjustments are that far off....but it certainly wouldnt explain the remote, etc issue

Anybody else?

Lance

dbaisey · Posted: Fri Jul 04, 2008 6:19 pm Post subject:

If turning the screw clockwise (min gamma) does the yellow go off? See Moome's gamma setting guide but I think at full gamma it stays on. Doug

jarseneau · Joined: 06 Nov 2007 Posts: 323 Location: WI

Here are some pointers:
- Start with the gamma pot turned fully CCW until you hear/feel a faint click while turning. That is max gamma as far as the pot adjustment. At that point the remote adjustment has the full range to work with.
- Each press of the remote makes a very small change so it will take many presses to get to max gamma (at least that's the way it was on the beta board).
- Start with the Gain/Contrast pot at mid-range or about 10 turns CW from max for your initial gamma adjustment.
- Gamma change is mainly noticable in only the darkest picture elements. I recommend using the AVCHD test disc that you can download here. Then burn it to DVD. No need to burn it to Blu-Ray, normal DVD works just fine. Use the first test pattern under the first title "Basic Adjustments" which has the 2-22 color patterns (all dark black). As you increase gamma. you will see bars at lower (darker) numbers.

**kal** · Posted: Fri Jul 04, 2008 8:11 pm Post subject:

Nice pointers Jerry. I'll add them to the FAQ in the first post of this thread for easy reference.

Kal

LanceL · Joined: 21 Jan 2008 Posts: 13

Thanks all
I'm out of town for the holidays so wont be able to try untill I return
(as a side note I used some of the scenes (Spiderman-on the spiderweb at night and 5th element-several diff scenes) that I've others utilize...but of course, need to start with a proper setup/adj)
Thanks again....I'll let you know how I fare
Lance

Gary M. · Guest

so these are shipping? great

might have to order one now

I am not up on the previous pages of this thread, was the gamma issue finally corrected?

glad to see this shipping

-Gary

**kal** · Posted: Sat Jul 05, 2008 7:32 pm Post subject:

meski · Joined: 03 Apr 2008 Posts: 10

I thought there were still some issues with the gamma range? There was a lot of talk that the gamma range of the card was better suited to a sony pj than the XG. Has this now been fixed?

MikeEby · Joined: 24 Jun 2007 Posts: 5237 Location: Osceola, Indiana

I think it depends on who you talk to, Jerry has posted screen shots that show a dramatic improvement in gamma, KennyG has posted otherwise but I have not seen any screen shots.

Mike

**kal** · Posted: Sun Jul 06, 2008 2:29 pm Post subject:

Both Jerry and Kenny were sent test cards. The gamma range wasn't quite right so Moome made some recommendations to Jerry as to what parts to change. Jerry then liked the results and the final cards shipping to everyone have these changes in place.

Kal

MikeEby · Joined: 24 Jun 2007 Posts: 5237 Location: Osceola, Indiana

Ok, thanks for the clarification.

Mike

meski · Joined: 03 Apr 2008 Posts: 10

I'm glad its fixed. I've just placed my order.

JuzWerkz · Posted: Mon Jul 07, 2008 2:11 pm Post subject:

I just wanted to update the group re: things I've posted earlier. I got a chance to do a first-pass setup on my card this weekend, and the picture is very watchable. I'm still struggling with getting the gamma adjustments just right, but I still have a few convergence problems too. My eyes can see the problems, but I'm still a newbie and don't know exactly what to adjust to fix them. Dark scenes do seem to be better than with the old card. The biggest thing I wanted to report is that for whatever reason, my PS3 is now making the HDCP handshake with the card through my VP30. I am not aware of anything I changed, except perhaps the power on order. The one thing I do consistently now that seems to work every time is power on the PS3 last. I never even swapped or wiggled any cables, and it seems to be working now, so I'm happy.

Also, has anyone else using an XG110LC been able to synch to a 1080p picture? I've gotten 1080i and 720p, but I haven't been able to get it to lock at 1080p (I didn't try very hard). I know other users have been posting about running 1080p 72 Hz, but I think they were running XG135's. Can the 110 go that fast?

thanks,

cj

**kal** · Posted: Mon Jul 07, 2008 3:28 pm Post subject:

JuzWerkz · Posted: Mon Jul 07, 2008 3:38 pm Post subject: