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CZ Eddie
Joined: 23 Mar 2006
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Location: Austin, TX
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| Posted: Wed Jul 25, 2007 6:07 pm Post subject: |
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| Phil Smith wrote: |
We've talked about this before. You sell on the side as well. If you think that's excusable, what are your potential customers going to think? |
Whoah now, take two steps back and relax.
There is a BIG difference between a person complaining about no emails for two weeks and what is going on here for two MONTHS.
No freakin way am I siding with CJ. Re-read what I've posted above and this time wear your thinking glasses. Cuz the only thing I said is that CJ has never given me the impression of being a thief and I highly doubt that is the case here. I'm saying there must be something else going on with CJ. Or maybe a part of the story is not being told here. It's not like the Original Poster is giving me any feelings of confidence when I read his/her thread. 
Two freakin months without email or contact or product is un-freakin-believeable. 
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Phil Smith
Joined: 08 Mar 2006
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| Posted: Wed Jul 25, 2007 6:12 pm Post subject: |
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| Ridebreck wrote: | | Phil, venting is one thing, but what this guy did was inexcusable in my opinion. I've been ripped off several times in my lifetime (I'm currently owned $1,500 by a previous landlord), but I've NEVER wished that their family members were brutalized, raped, or killed. That's way the hell over the line and there's frankly no call for it. |
I don't disagree with you Matt, and I personally wouldn't never say anything like that. But you and others let jingrjackey's ill advised venting overshadow the fact that CJ ripped him off, which is even more offensive to me.
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Phil Smith
Joined: 08 Mar 2006
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| Posted: Wed Jul 25, 2007 6:28 pm Post subject: |
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| CZ Eddie wrote: | | There is a BIG difference between a person complaining about no emails for two weeks and what is going on here for two MONTHS. |
I was not trying to make any connection between the two. I just pointed out we had discussed what a seller says and how it might be construed by his customers. That's all.
| Quote: | | No freakin way am I siding with CJ. Re-read what I've posted above and this time wear your thinking glasses. |
I did that. It still reads the same to me. 
| Quote: | | Cuz the only thing I said is that CJ has never given me the impression of being a thief and I highly doubt that is the case here. I'm saying there must be something else going on with CJ. |
Thinking glasses still on. Still looks like your defending him to me.
| Quote: | | Or maybe a part of the story is not being told here. It's not like the Original Poster is giving me any feelings of confidence when I read his/her thread. |
Good point, and I agree. But CJ has a bit of a history that doesn't exactly instill confidence. You say he doesn't strike you as a thief. Prior to this, hasn't he already proven himself to be a thief? I can't recall for sure, but I think he's already burned a few people.
| Quote: | | Two freakin months without email or contact or product is un-freakin-believeable. |
That's what I'm talkin' 'bout! 
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zaphod
Joined: 16 Jun 2006
Posts: 2002
Location: Cloverdale
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| Posted: Wed Jul 25, 2007 6:31 pm Post subject: |
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| Phil Smith wrote: | | Ridebreck wrote: | | Phil, venting is one thing, but what this guy did was inexcusable in my opinion. I've been ripped off several times in my lifetime (I'm currently owned $1,500 by a previous landlord), but I've NEVER wished that their family members were brutalized, raped, or killed. That's way the hell over the line and there's frankly no call for it. |
I don't disagree with you Matt, and I personally wouldn't never say anything like that. But you and others let jingrjackey's ill advised venting overshadow the fact that CJ ripped him off, which is even more offensive to me. |
$120 ripoff
raping and killing multiple family members
noone says that the 120 is right, justifiable or forgivable, but let's step back and weigh the crime against the retribution.
or let me put it this way. by how much do you have to rip me off before i'm allowed to kill you? if $120 made multiple family members okay, would you be worth $60?
i have no intention of harming you, your family or anyone else. but i am curious what you think about the value required for someone to do it.
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dculberson
Joined: 05 Jan 2007
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Location: Columbus, OH
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| Posted: Wed Jul 25, 2007 6:35 pm Post subject: |
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| Phil Smith wrote: | | I don't disagree with you Matt, and I personally wouldn't never say anything like that. But you and others let jingrjackey's ill advised venting overshadow the fact that CJ ripped him off, which is even more offensive to me. |
Dude, no f--in way. Jackey's poorly chosen words weren't just slightly over the line. Did you even read them? Did you read it after they were edited? Because you don't wish a man's wife and daughters raped over $120. That's what the guy said. You're condoning that kind of threat and language over a business transaction? If so, that says a lot.
If you screwed me out of $10,000, I still wouldn't use that kind of language. Just Jackey's post itself could be criminally actionable. Those threats are not legal (in this country, at least). Ever.
-David
p.s. Sorry to hear about your luck, Jackey, but honestly the threat made me think a lot less of you. So much less that I don't feel bad for you at all. Grow up.
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CZ Eddie
Joined: 23 Mar 2006
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| Posted: Wed Jul 25, 2007 6:38 pm Post subject: |
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Phil,
I'm not sure. I know there are several people including myself (twice now) who were not satisifed with their transactions 100%, but as far as I know... everybody has always eventually gotten something at least similar to what it was they paid for.
And yes, I'm defending CJ in his absense. But I'm defending his character, not the implied actions in this thread. And while a persons actions will define their character... I do believe there are loopholes. doh!
Don't make me defend him any more than I want to, dangit! 
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Person99
Joined: 09 Mar 2006
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Location: Flower Mound, TX
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| Posted: Wed Jul 25, 2007 6:43 pm Post subject: |
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| dculberson wrote: |
Dude, no f--in way. Jackey's poorly chosen words weren't just slightly over the line. Did you even read them? Did you read it after they were edited? Because you don't wish a man's wife and daughters raped over $120. That's what the guy said. You're condoning that kind of threat and language over a business transaction? If so, that says a lot. |
I don't think anyone condones the poorly chosen words. They were heat of the moment words that OP seems to realize he made a mistake saying (hence the edit).
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emdawgz1
Joined: 14 Mar 2006
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| Posted: Wed Jul 25, 2007 6:43 pm Post subject: |
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Thats harsh for 120.00 
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Ridebreck
Joined: 08 Mar 2006
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| Posted: Wed Jul 25, 2007 6:43 pm Post subject: |
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| Phil Smith wrote: | | I don't disagree with you Matt, and I personally wouldn't never say anything like that. But you and others let jingrjackey's ill advised venting overshadow the fact that CJ ripped him off, which is even more offensive to me. |
In my opinion, this guy overshadowed the fact that he was ripped off with the way that he reacted. If he had any hope of actually receiving either product or a refund before he typed that post, then it was gone the second he clicked "Submit". I've got zero problem with the guy getting pissed - in fact I would have gotten pissed too, but he completely and utterly crossed the line with that post.
As for CJ, I don't know the guy and have only chatted with him briefly a couple of times via PM. He seems to me like a good guy with good intentions as those that have met him face-to-face attest to. However, for whatever reason many of his ideas just don't seem to pan out. I don't know the reason why and I'm not going to speculate one way or the other. Regardless of the bad transactions that people have had with him, neither he nor his family come anywhere close to deserving wishes of rape and death to he and his family. That's fuggin' bush league at best and if my calling it out as such comes off as supporting CJ, then so be it.
Phil, you know that I don't usually get too riled about stuff on the boards, but this guy's post was complete bullsh*t and I'm going to call a spade and spade in this instance.
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dculberson
Joined: 05 Jan 2007
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| Posted: Wed Jul 25, 2007 6:46 pm Post subject: |
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| Person99 wrote: | | I don't think anyone condones the poorly chosen words. They were heat of the moment words that OP seems to realize he made a mistake saying (hence the edit). |
Curt edited it.
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Phil Smith
Joined: 08 Mar 2006
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| Posted: Wed Jul 25, 2007 6:51 pm Post subject: |
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| zaphod wrote: | $120 ripoff
raping and killing multiple family members
noone says that the 120 is right, justifiable or forgivable, but let's step back and weigh the crime against the retribution.
or let me put it this way. by how much do you have to rip me off before i'm allowed to kill you? if $120 made multiple family members okay, would you be worth $60?
i have no intention of harming you, your family or anyone else. but i am curious what you think about the value required for someone to do it. |
| dculberson wrote: | Dude, no f--in way. Jackey's poorly chosen words weren't just slightly over the line. Did you even read them? Did you read it after they were edited? Because you don't wish a man's wife and daughters raped over $120. That's what the guy said. You're condoning that kind of threat and language over a business transaction? If so, that says a lot.
If you screwed me out of $10,000, I still wouldn't use that kind of language. Just Jackey's post itself could be criminally actionable. Those threats are not legal (in this country, at least). Ever.
-David
p.s. Sorry to hear about your luck, Jackey, but honestly the threat made me think a lot less of you. So much less that I don't feel bad for you at all. Grow up. |
Oh Jesus! Both of you know jingrjackey was just venting, that he had no intention of actually doing such a thing. Was it the right thing to say. No! As has been pointed out several times, it was in very bad taste and childish. Was it as bad as you guys are trying to make it? Hell no, because he didn't really mean it. He was just venting.
Everyone has their own opinion about that. I'm done debating it. 
It's been implied that $120 is no big deal. Which one of you are volunteering to send jingrjackey $120?
Well?
Still waiting...
Thought so!
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draganm
Joined: 08 Mar 2006
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| Posted: Wed Jul 25, 2007 6:55 pm Post subject: |
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hmmm, $120. stolen from a mass murdere. How do these types of people always manage to find each other on the interent? Is there a secret web-site or pass-word they use to interact
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zaphod
Joined: 16 Jun 2006
Posts: 2002
Location: Cloverdale
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| Posted: Wed Jul 25, 2007 7:00 pm Post subject: |
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| Phil Smith wrote: |
It's been implied that $120 is no big deal. Which one of you are volunteering to send jingrjackey $120?
Well?
Still waiting...
Thought so! |
i was ripped off for $150 by someone who sold me a cable and didn't deliver. legally i can sign that debt over to jingrjackey in payment for a debt owed by me to him.
of course the odds of jingrjackey seeing the 150 is as close to zero as is the odds of me getting the cable or my money back.
so that's probably not what you intended.
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CZ Eddie
Joined: 23 Mar 2006
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Location: Austin, TX
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| Posted: Wed Jul 25, 2007 7:02 pm Post subject: |
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Zaphod, if you do sign over that debt, I would suggest that you ask the OP to give you the $30 difference right away!
Esepecially in light of this...
| draganm wrote: | | hmmm, $120. stolen from a mass murderer. How do these types of people always manage to find each other on the interent? Is there a secret web-site or pass-word they use to interact |
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Phil Smith
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| Posted: Wed Jul 25, 2007 7:03 pm Post subject: |
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| Ridebreck wrote: | | Phil Smith wrote: | | I don't disagree with you Matt, and I personally wouldn't never say anything like that. But you and others let jingrjackey's ill advised venting overshadow the fact that CJ ripped him off, which is even more offensive to me. |
In my opinion, this guy overshadowed the fact that he was ripped off with the way that he reacted. If he had any hope of actually receiving either product or a refund before he typed that post, then it was gone the second he clicked "Submit". I've got zero problem with the guy getting pissed - in fact I would have gotten pissed too, but he completely and utterly crossed the line with that post.
As for CJ, I don't know the guy and have only chatted with him briefly a couple of times via PM. He seems to me like a good guy with good intentions as those that have met him face-to-face attest to. However, for whatever reason many of his ideas just don't seem to pan out. I don't know the reason why and I'm not going to speculate one way or the other. Regardless of the bad transactions that people have had with him, neither he nor his family come anywhere close to deserving wishes of rape and death to he and his family. That's fuggin' bush league at best and if my calling it out as such comes off as supporting CJ, then so be it.
Phil, you know that I don't usually get too riled about stuff on the boards, but this guy's post was complete bullsh*t and I'm going to call a spade and spade in this instance. |
Matt,
Are we talking about the same CJ? There must be more than one.
As far as jingrjackey is concerned, I think you guys are letting a poor choice of words, said in the heat of the moment, overshadow the core of this thread--CJ ripping the guy off. We've all chosen what to focus on. Most of you the rant. Dave, I and a few others on the business transaction.
Frankly, I'm surprised that after all of these years, Dave and I seem to be the only ones that see Chris for what he is. After all the sh*t he's pulled, people still defend him.
Now I know how Hitler pulled it off. (Just kidding! Don't go off on me!)
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Brian Hampton
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| Posted: Wed Jul 25, 2007 7:19 pm Post subject: |
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Hey,
You can't expect everyone to conduct bussiness like Curt Palme. (I wish you could.)
It's too bad we can't all just enjoy CJ for his comic value.
-Brian
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CRT_Ben
Joined: 28 Aug 2006
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Location: Northern Virginia
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| Posted: Wed Jul 25, 2007 7:24 pm Post subject: |
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Take this information for what it is - but I did receive my tubes that I ordered from him, which were part of fuzzybee's call-out post awhile back that you guys mentioned. They came about 3 weeks late.
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Person99
Joined: 09 Mar 2006
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| Posted: Wed Jul 25, 2007 7:27 pm Post subject: |
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| Brian Hampton wrote: |
It's too bad we can't all just enjoy CJ for his comic value.
-Brian |
I do. I've been waiting for him to redesign the CRT projector!
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dculberson
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| Posted: Wed Jul 25, 2007 7:33 pm Post subject: |
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| phil smith wrote: |
As far as jingrjackey is concerned, I think you guys are letting a poor choice of words, said in the heat of the moment, overshadow the core of this thread--CJ ripping the guy off. We've all chosen what to focus on. Most of you the rant. Dave, I and a few others on the business transaction.
(and in another post)
Both of you know jingrjackey was just venting, that he had no intention of actually doing such a thing.
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How is the $120 ripoff the core of the issue to me? It isn't. It's good information, to be sure. And I don't know he didn't mean it - I don't know the guy from Jack or sh*t.
Words have weight, and your choice of words do matter, no matter what the circumstances. If you chose the wrong words, you cause yourself problems. Try threatening to rape the police officer's wife the next time you get a speeding ticket and you'll find out what I mean.
In the meantime, it's obvious that you choose to protect some jerkoff's right to rant over his $120 more than our right to tell him he's out of line. So be it - no skin off my back. But I'd be here, doing my part, if he said the same thing to/about you/your family.
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CRT_Ben
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| Posted: Wed Jul 25, 2007 7:41 pm Post subject: |
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| Phil Smith wrote: | | jingrjackey was just venting, that he had no intention of actually doing such a thing. |
How can you say that? None of us would have written what he wrote, for good reason (we're sane). There's truth behind every joke, and every word spoken, even in anger. I never would have written those words because they never would have crossed my mind...he had to think of them, and then decide it was a good idea to write them down
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