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Z-Photo
Joined: 07 Mar 2006 Posts: 2749 Location: Huntsville - Alabama
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| Posted: Tue Mar 07, 2006 7:49 pm Post subject: Curt's First Post - The BarkenStein |
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I recently purchased a Retro BG 808s (the price was right ) and it just got delivered by Mr Clarence.
It started as this:
But soon got parted out into this spare 808 case:
I also changed out the CPU and convergence tray. The convergence tray had a lot of different boards.
It looks fairly straight forward to install the tubes - some new holes in both the top and bottom part of the case and some spacers.
The original and retro hole pattern:
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joerg
Joined: 07 Mar 2006 Posts: 60 Location: Germany
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| Posted: Tue Mar 07, 2006 8:03 pm Post subject: |
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Looking forward to see this crossbreed 8)
Joerg
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kal Forum Administrator
Joined: 06 Mar 2006 Posts: 18114 Location: Ottawa, Canada
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Z-Photo
Joined: 07 Mar 2006 Posts: 2749 Location: Huntsville - Alabama
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| Posted: Tue Mar 07, 2006 8:21 pm Post subject: |
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OK - Got it worked out.
No spaces allowed in the image name - I will fix the pictures when I get home.
Avatar rules are now being followed.......
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curtsbiotch
Joined: 07 Mar 2006 Posts: 30 Location: Vancouver, BC
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| Posted: Tue Mar 07, 2006 8:25 pm Post subject: |
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Well this should be interesting
Congrats Curty on using my idea!! He won't admit it but I was the one to tell him to do this. Good job Kal!
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kal Forum Administrator
Joined: 06 Mar 2006 Posts: 18114 Location: Ottawa, Canada
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Mad Mr H
Joined: 07 Mar 2006 Posts: 641 Location: London , England
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| Posted: Tue Mar 07, 2006 11:52 pm Post subject: |
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Nice PJ Pete......
Cant wait to see the finished product.
That top plate looks difficult to make
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Curt Palme CRT Tech
Joined: 08 Mar 2006 Posts: 24396 Location: Langley, BC
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| Posted: Wed Mar 08, 2006 3:58 am Post subject: |
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Yo Pete, why can I only see the first pix? I can't see the rest.
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Z-Photo
Joined: 07 Mar 2006 Posts: 2749 Location: Huntsville - Alabama
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| Posted: Wed Mar 08, 2006 3:10 pm Post subject: |
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Got the pictures fixed. With this forum code it does not accept a space in the hosted image name...
More Barkenstein:
Pictures:
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Z-Photo
Joined: 07 Mar 2006 Posts: 2749 Location: Huntsville - Alabama
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| Posted: Wed Mar 08, 2006 3:11 pm Post subject: |
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More:
8)
Now all I have to do is put it back together.
Pete
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Z-Photo
Joined: 07 Mar 2006 Posts: 2749 Location: Huntsville - Alabama
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| Posted: Fri Mar 10, 2006 1:27 am Post subject: |
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When I get done with the single parent (for a night) routine I am going to pull the HD component boards and take some pictures - I think I got three of the "optional" cards..
Pete
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Person99
Joined: 09 Mar 2006 Posts: 4899 Location: Flower Mound, TX
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| Posted: Fri Mar 10, 2006 5:36 am Post subject: |
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| Z-Photo wrote: | When I get done with the single parent (for a night) routine I am going to pull the HD component boards and take some pictures - I think I got three of the "optional" cards..
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Don't get too excited there Petey, my Zenith (Barco) has the component input and it is just OK. Any of the decent component transcoders will do a better job.
Dave
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tsort
Joined: 08 Mar 2006 Posts: 66 Location: Gothenburg SWEDEN
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| Posted: Fri Mar 10, 2006 10:49 am Post subject: |
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Looks like a interesting project.
more pictures!!! We love pictures
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Z-Photo
Joined: 07 Mar 2006 Posts: 2749 Location: Huntsville - Alabama
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| Posted: Fri Mar 10, 2006 1:53 pm Post subject: |
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I am getting some other transcoders to try (from Clarence) and will do a side by side comparison.
Right now - the picture looks very very nice. The only issue is that when first turned on - the PJ does not recogonize the component in - I have to press "8" for it to swap source.
Pete
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Person99
Joined: 09 Mar 2006 Posts: 4899 Location: Flower Mound, TX
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| Posted: Fri Mar 10, 2006 2:42 pm Post subject: |
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| Z-Photo wrote: | | I am getting some other transcoders to try (from Clarence) and will do a side by side comparison. |
I'm about to get a pre-production model of a new transcoder that I have very high hopes for. It will sell for less than the other good transcoders but I'm hoping it has excellent performance. I'll do a full review and a shoot out with moome's when I get it.
| Z-Photo wrote: | | The only issue is that when first turned on - the PJ does not recogonize the component in - I have to press "8" for it to swap source. |
With the tri-level sync board, there are the inputs for port 4/5
4/5 on RCU - RGBHV (just like all other Barcos)
6 on RCU - R-Y, Y, B-Y with sync
7 on RCU - RGB Analog with tri-level sync or with tri-level sync on green
8 on RCU - Component video with tri-level sync.
Dave
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Z-Photo
Joined: 07 Mar 2006 Posts: 2749 Location: Huntsville - Alabama
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Dave-
Let me know about the other transcoder...
6 - 480p
7 - sync ups but has a green cast - I call it the Pot source
8 - works perfect.
The funny thing is that the other ports find the signal - the HD component has to be told that it is there.
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Speedplay
Joined: 11 Apr 2006 Posts: 117 Location: Albuquerque, NM
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| Posted: Wed Apr 12, 2006 4:42 pm Post subject: |
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Pete,
Looking at the pictures. It seems that by using the LC top plate, the tubes are located in the same spot the original 808 tubes where, even though the LC tubes are shorter.
Did you have to do anything to the 808 bottom plate to mount the LC tubes? shims, re-drill holes in a diferent location, etc.
What lenses are you using? did you fit colored c elements?
And how is it all working? Hows the PQ?
thanks for the pioneering work!
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Z-Photo
Joined: 07 Mar 2006 Posts: 2749 Location: Huntsville - Alabama
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| Posted: Wed Apr 12, 2006 5:05 pm Post subject: |
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The tubes are the same - the overall length (with hardware) is fairly close.. No issues with fit.
The difference in top plates is shown in the one picture -
With the Barco LC top plate you used the provided holes - no drilling necessary. A shim may be required for the bottom - I did not use one - it was fairly sturdy.
This was just a fitup experiment - I have not experimented with it since gettin gthe 1208 and other retro setup and running - other hobbies.
My 1208 is so sharp and produces such a nice picture I am now just upgrading the source and not looking at the LC options.
The Barco Top plates are rare (very rare) I got this one from MadMrH (thanks once again). IMO it can be shimmed up and made to work with the OEM top plate but this was much easier (neater)
Pete
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Z-Photo
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| Posted: Wed Apr 26, 2006 6:16 pm Post subject: |
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Anyone with C-Elements for these?
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secstate
Joined: 20 Mar 2006 Posts: 720
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| Posted: Wed Apr 26, 2006 9:05 pm Post subject: |
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I have a couple of the Ampro retro c-elements you can have for the cost of shipping but I don't know if they are the same or not. You can probably tell if you still have one of your Ampro Retro P16s lying around.
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