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Mad Mr H
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| Curt Palme wrote: | | I really haven't had a lot of 1209s through here though, maybe 4 in total? |
So the 3 on my ceiling, one on my test bed and 2 in storage is as I suspected a little MAD then 
For the record I am sure that board is a SEMU ADVANCED board.
SEMU LITE allows blending on 2 sides, SEMU ADVANCD allows blending on 4 sides, And SEMU ADVANCED TWO is 4 side with Gamma correction.
There are THREE versions of semu.
I would guess that Pj has COG, Contrast modulation and SEMU fitted.
It might even have special firmware - when you have it running please contact me with the firmware version.
NOW YOU NEED TO FIND A SECOND ONE AND BLEND THEM !!!!
I have FOUR 1209s here wih SEMU advanced fitted 
Oh! another thing for those that want to know........the "Silver" control cover is usually HALF width, with SEMU fitted its full width.
That controller looks like a version 8 or earlier, there is the additional power for the SEMU board, a version 9 controller has that on the PCB without the additional sub pcb.
The SEMU also indicates that you will have a late version of several other boards.
Just note this as serveral other boards will also be slightly different to the "normal" 1209s.
The semu option is ONLY factory fitted, as it includes a number of subtle board changes.
When I find time I will write this up if others want to know about it...........
Anyone wanting to blend  these are worthwhile options.
I have NO DRIFT and COG fitted to both my current 1209s units, IF I read correctly the mention of drift with COG ???
I would suggest other things cause that...........
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Mad Mr H
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| Posted: Tue May 29, 2007 9:12 pm Post subject: |
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| Z-Photo wrote: | damn -
99.99% of people would be completely happy with a cherry 1208s/2.
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Very Silly 2% own Ampros -
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AnalogRocks
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| Posted: Tue May 29, 2007 10:28 pm Post subject: |
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I....ahhh never mind
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secstate
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I'd rather not have the drift, thank you (yes, your projector drifts even more when using the COG option. It may be marginal, but it does). |
I am with MadHatter on this one, I haven't noticed any worse drift on either my former 1208s/2 or current 808s with CoG.
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Spotmatic
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| Mad Mr H wrote: | | Curt Palme wrote: | | I really haven't had a lot of 1209s through here though, maybe 4 in total? |
So the 3 on my ceiling, one on my test bed and 2 in storage is as I suspected a little MAD then
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Well, only a little
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For the record I am sure that board is a SEMU ADVANCED board.
SEMU LITE allows blending on 2 sides, SEMU ADVANCD allows blending on 4 sides, And SEMU ADVANCED TWO is 4 side with Gamma correction.
There are THREE versions of semu.
I would guess that Pj has COG, Contrast modulation and SEMU fitted.
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Yes, the projector has all of that fitted. Not any more, as I have ripped the Contrast Modulation and SEMU boards out of it as I do not need them and never will. Did you notice the large white cables going to the SEMU board? This can only affect the picture, so away with them.
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It might even have special firmware - when you have it running please contact me with the firmware version.
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It just has a standard firmware I think, 7.22.
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NOW YOU NEED TO FIND A SECOND ONE AND BLEND THEM !!!!
I have FOUR 1209s here wih SEMU advanced fitted
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Well, speaking about being Mad 8)
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Oh! another thing for those that want to know........the "Silver" control cover is usually HALF width, with SEMU fitted its full width.
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Yes, I was aware of that (it is an obvious difference when compared with my 1208s/2).
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That controller looks like a version 8 or earlier, there is the additional power for the SEMU board, a version 9 controller has that on the PCB without the additional sub pcb.
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That's good to know.
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The SEMU also indicates that you will have a late version of several other boards.
Just note this as serveral other boards will also be slightly different to the "normal" 1209s.
The semu option is ONLY factory fitted, as it includes a number of subtle board changes.
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So I'm not there yet by ripping the SEMU and CM boards out of the projector? I'd be interested in the differences... As I want an as clean as possible 1209s/E that is NOT going to be blended and never will be. At least not with the Barco options, because there are better solutions for that. Everything that is not needed in a HT environment will be ripped out of the projector. For instance the Quad decoder: away with it, who is going to use the Video and S-video inputs? The LiDo and LiMo are also worthless pieces of junk, almost any external scaler is better. The less boards there are in the 1209s, the less chance there is of interference and other problems...
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I have NO DRIFT and COG fitted to both my current 1209s units, IF I read correctly the mention of drift with COG ???
I would suggest other things cause that........... |
I was under the impression that each and every Barco prior to the 909's do drift (albeit very, very little) because of the way the convergence is being done. Only the 909's have a convergence system that is completely digital from start to end. Usually the green convergence is rock solid, but when you start going away from the midpoints... OK, it may be marginal, but...
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Spotmatic
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BTW, here are the P19LUG tubes that I got for my 1209s/E. Have I done well?
Green:
Blue:
Red:
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Mark_A_W
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Time to get some filtered C elements - BEFORE you put them in the projector!
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Spotmatic
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| Mark_A_W wrote: | | Time to get some filtered C elements - BEFORE you put them in the projector! |
Of course, I already have the green, and I'm working on the red...
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AnalogRocks
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No those look terible. You need to ship them here for 8000-10000 hours of evaluation. 
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Spotmatic
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| AnalogRocks wrote: | | No those look terible. You need to ship them here for 8000-10000 hours of evaluation. |
Of course, you are such a nice person. But mind you, those tubes are built to explode in Canada or in Ampros. Otherwise, you are safe.
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Spotmatic
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A few screenshots of my 1209s before the tubes will be swapped (the source is the T2 HD-DVD via my Xbox 360 @ 1080p). The 1209s is not really very well setup and you'll notice the wear on the right side of the screen.
By the way, the T2 HD-DVD (Director's Cut) is not available in the Americas, only on Blu-Ray. I'm sometimes glad I live in Europe
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Z-Photo
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That image just stinks -
think what you would have gotten if you had bought a G90 for twice the price.
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Yeah, waiting for a tube swap and still not setup well.....
that really stinks!
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AnalogRocks
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| Spotmatic wrote: | | AnalogRocks wrote: | | No those look terible. You need to ship them here for 8000-10000 hours of evaluation. |
Of course, you are such a nice person. But mind you, those tubes are built to explode in Canada or in Ampros. Otherwise, you are safe. |
Damn, guess I'd go out happy
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erikjohn
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| Spotmatic wrote: | | AnalogRocks wrote: | | No those look terible. You need to ship them here for 8000-10000 hours of evaluation. |
Of course, you are such a nice person. But mind you, those tubes are built to explode in Canada or in Ampros. Otherwise, you are safe. |
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Mad Mr H
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Ripping the SEMU card out should have little difference.
The SEMU system is NOT ON unless you activate it within the menu.
The PJ THEN re routes the signal via the SEMU card.
The Cont Mod. (CM) card is required if you want an even luminance across the H & V plane of the image.
Although I find it totally watchable without the CM.
Spotmatic - There are many reasons for drift, the 909 may have more advanced electronics and control system, BUT it is still possible for drift. Deflection coil movement, temp changes, etc.
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Mad Mr H
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Spotmatic - I also think from your screen shots that you have the "ring" in the picture on the left hand side.
Difficult to see as most of the pics are dark, but I think it is there..............
Nice tubes BTW.
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Spotmatic
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| Mad Mr H wrote: | Spotmatic - I also think from your screen shots that you have the "ring" in the picture on the left hand side.
Difficult to see as most of the pics are dark, but I think it is there..............
Nice tubes BTW. |
Thanks for your comments about the tubes. But I have to admit you have good eyes. What else could that be, but the infamous Raster Ringing?
That 1209s was not well setup. I always do my "15 minute setup" when I have acquired a new PJ. These photos were made during that setup.
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Spotmatic
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Well, the 1209s certainly did not last long enough. I have already upgraded to something better. I'm sorry guys! 
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To what?
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