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krelian
Joined: 07 Apr 2015
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| Posted: Sun Oct 13, 2019 12:45 pm Post subject: |
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| garyfritz wrote: | If you really intend to watch only SD sources, then a 9" EM projector is a waste of money. The SD sources are very low-fidelity and they're a good match for the lower-fidelity projectors like the D50. Higher-quality projectors like G90/909 will make HD sources look fantastic, but in comparison the SD sources will look like crap. Fuzzy and no fine detail.
It does NOT make sense to buy a 909 and defocus it! That's like buying a Porsche and putting bicycle tires on it to intentionally cripple it. If you want a bike, save yourself some money and just buy a bike.
How big a screen do you intend to use? If you're using a small screen, say maybe 50-60" diagonal, then D50 with SD sources will look OK. (But if you're doing that, why not just spend a few hundred $$ and get a nice LED flatscreen?) But if you go for a 100" diagonal, you will see much more detail -- good and bad. IMHO 100" is too large a screen for SD sources. |
that's what I wanted to hear...thanks
so if I understand correctly SD sources will look bad no matter what on a G90/909?
As I said I will definitely use a Lumagen scaler. I guess that won't make much of a difference, right?
To answer your question
supposedly a 96" is the real limit after which SD sources will defintely look bad, so I was thinking something in the 80-90 range.
As I mentioned a good chunk of my collection is made of 4:3 material but anyway I will never ever go digital, an LED is out of question, the day CRT becomes really an impossible hobby I'll keep with my 720p plasma screen, 10 years ago it was considered the best TV set ever made
IMO it still is. I have been around, looked at new 4K super-duper screens, expensive digital pjt's as well and they look utter rubbish to my eyes, especially with sport, compared to my plasma
| ElTopo wrote: | | @krelian: Where are you located ? |
eh, that is the problem right now, lol
I am scattered between 3 different countries right now (Uk, Spain, Italy). I will settle in about a year or so
I just want to move preemptively before it is really game over
Sure thing, if I buy from Curt, or in general overseas, I will have it delivered in the UK to avoid any issue with customs and all.
@Curt or anybody else who might now
Is the moome card compatible with the 708? That of course is a deal breaker
It is not in the list, but I guess that list was not meant to be complete?
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garyfritz
Joined: 08 Apr 2006
Posts: 12088
Location: Fort Collins, CO
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| Posted: Sun Oct 13, 2019 1:53 pm Post subject: |
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| krelian wrote: | so if I understand correctly SD sources will look bad no matter what on a G90/909?
supposedly a 96" is the real limit after which SD sources will defintely look bad, so I was thinking something in the 80-90 range. |
SD sources are pretty low-resolution. On a small screen (like the small TVs that those SD shows were created for) you won't notice, but blow it up large and you enlarge the low resolution as well. It's like looking at an out-of-focus photo with a magnifying glass -- the magnifier doesn't fix the focus problem, it makes it MORE visible. G90/909 can't create higher resolution, they'll just display the blurry image with more & sharper scan lines.  Your scaler can create more lines, but it's not creating HD out of an SD signal. It's just interpolating the SD scan lines.
I think 96" is too large for an ES pj like the D50 (or for SD for that matter), but that's just my opinion. I had an ES Dwin 700 for a while on my 98" screen, and I felt like I needed new glasses. Everything looked blurry. You might not notice the ES blur as much with SD sources because the SD image itself is so blurry, but it'll look worse on an 8' screen.
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km987654
Joined: 25 Jul 2007
Posts: 2874
Location: Australia
TV/Projector: Barco BG809s
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SD sources look like crap on anything other than a small screen. If you have any projector dialed in correctly even an ES projector and watch HD material you will have great difficulty watching SD material no matter what scaler you have.
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Curt Palme
CRT Tech
Joined: 08 Mar 2006
Posts: 24396
Location: Langley, BC
TV/Projector: All of them!
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| Posted: Mon Oct 14, 2019 3:36 am Post subject: |
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| krelian wrote: |
Sure thing, if I buy from Curt, or in general overseas, I will have it delivered in the UK to avoid any issue with customs and all.
@Curt or anybody else who might now
Is the moome card compatible with the 708? That of course is a deal breaker
It is not in the list, but I guess that list was not meant to be complete? |
No, there is no room to fit the Moome card in on a 70X set. Get an HDFury with the external power supply, or if you can find an external Moome card, you're fine.
Keep in mind that the VAT is going to be high no matter what European country you import into, usually around 25%.
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