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redfox001
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| Posted: Tue Feb 16, 2016 4:45 am Post subject: |
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I am happy with the vim. I think the replacement of the switch is bit of gold at the end of the rainbow to use Mikes words. I can be critical too no need to be a worshipper. Most people think they need to say everything Mike wants to hear I tell him the truth guess what he will remember
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mp20748
Joined: 12 Sep 2006 Posts: 5689 Location: Maryland
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| Posted: Tue Feb 16, 2016 10:26 am Post subject: |
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| redfox001 wrote: | I am happy with the vim. I think the replacement of the switch is bit of gold at the end of the rainbow to use Mikes words. I can be critical too no need to be a worshipper. Most people think they need to say everything Mike wants to hear I tell him the truth guess what he will remember  |
So did Mike do what you show in your posted picture below? These were the same boards you were PRAISING initially, Is that what you call "truth"
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redfox001
Joined: 16 Mar 2009 Posts: 2257 Location: The Netherlands
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| Posted: Tue Feb 16, 2016 10:50 am Post subject: |
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Mike did deliver this with potting. He forgot to test the neckboards with the vim and now they where low gain. I had to replace a resistor that was undernead the potting. Good job! Lol
image by Radio Head, on Flickr
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mp20748
Joined: 12 Sep 2006 Posts: 5689 Location: Maryland
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| Posted: Tue Feb 16, 2016 11:06 am Post subject: |
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| redfox001 wrote: | Mike did deliver this with potting. He forgot to test the neckboards with the vim and now they where low gain. I had to replace a resistor that was undernead the potting. Good job! Lol
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This is comical to say the least...where did that shot come from. Anyway, we got that problem solved for you from this end. That fix was done with my approval and help. And from there is when you posted all the PRAISE for how much you like the boards......but for some reason, you couldn't un-plug that soldering iron..
And then you sent me several emails stating that you had "reverse engineered my neck boards and made them better" and since they were actually your neck boards, that was fine with me, even you telling me "I know everthing you do on your mods and I'm going to post it" - OK, I also lived through that one as well.
But then you included someone else name and said "they helped you to fix the problem I did not fix when they were sent to you" so at that point I was told you got the boards reverse engineered with some help and they are better than what I'm selling people...
So with all that, what's that in the box and why are you using stock boards when 'according to you' my modified boards made things so much better (look at your priase reports). And let us not forget, that you had help in reverse engineering them and they are better....Now I got to tell you, if I were able to reverse engineer something and make it better, I would be cool calm and enjoying..
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redfox001
Joined: 16 Mar 2009 Posts: 2257 Location: The Netherlands
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Nice story full of bs. I took the noise relarted parts as you can see on the pic of the boards and took standard boards left the video as is and modified noise.
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mp20748
Joined: 12 Sep 2006 Posts: 5689 Location: Maryland
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I'm posting these ones here..
I've made a few more changes to my 300mhz neck boards. And as mentioned before I don't usually use them because the higher bandwidth also creates a higher noise floor. And that plays out as a hash in the image and a fuzzy like edge enhancement, though the image still looks sharp. And since I am anti-peaking, sharpening, enhancing and doing anything else to add to the signal, the noise bothers me. But recently over the past month playing with another set of boards, I've learned a thing or two more about the neck board design. So now I'm able to maintain that high bandwidth while at the same time tame the noise, or to put it better, more better match the neck board to the CRT itself.
And before I go one, this is not a sales post, because these board I'm not making available, no time soon. Not gonna happen. I have two many projects before me right now to be concerned about pushing sales.
Anyway, my setup is stupid sharp and I'm using my cheap Sony Blu Ray (not sharp at all) And the noise is well tamed..
Oh and let me point out that I have not touched anything in the menus of the projector (outside of contrast, brightness and blanking since installing the neck boards a few days ago... but what I want to point out is the improved low end performance even before calibration and just overall punch and sharpness detail. That confirms a VERY FAST video chain..
I'll call these shots: Inside of the SUB
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mp20748
Joined: 12 Sep 2006 Posts: 5689 Location: Maryland
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Back to my Panasonic - contrast at 71
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mp20748
Joined: 12 Sep 2006 Posts: 5689 Location: Maryland
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My Samsung Blu Ray @ 71 contrast
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mp20748
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redfox001
Joined: 16 Mar 2009 Posts: 2257 Location: The Netherlands
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| Posted: Sat Mar 05, 2016 9:25 am Post subject: |
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High bandwidth after modifications? 300MHz? Below you see three guys with modded video chain and how the standard boards outperform some boards on bandwidth.
| redfox001 wrote: | Here more facts. A recent picture from the wolfman having a fully Mike Parker modified video chain. Stolen from some other forum.
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This was his standard blue neckboard. It shows that his moome and vim do the bandwidht 100% perfect and that his modded red and green neckboards do not but the standard blue board does.
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"I forgot to mention my blue has a stock VNB as my modded one had a pin of some sort break loose, but green and red are modded."
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https://www.avforums.com/threads/worldwide-crt-projector-shootout.2000957/page-29
Here again someone with the mods greg1292 this time showing lower bandwidth after the mods. but of cause it is not mikes fault now it is Greg1292's setup that is wrong. The guy must have a dvi moome?
It is a little less clear what is changed but after the vim was modified (also the pot was removed ?) the bandwidth dropped. This time I guess the vim without the pot did not do as good as the standard one. It is a vim02. Wolfman has a vim03 with the ad834 those perform better.
I think Mike is not capable of letting the vim02 perform with very high bandwidth with the ad835.
Or perhaps he changed the new style neckboards with old style modified ones?
Anyway if it is the setup it must be his htpc or his blu-ray player
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With and without peaking trim pot on the front end of the 02vim on a new in the box
VDC9518 and the latest MP momee card |
Latest MP moomee card?????
Do you really have one of the latest modfied Moome cards done by me, and how would it impact a change in bandwidth or why is it even being mentioned here only as in comparison to the 9518 video chain.
Oh, and I was trying to find that very similar test you did on this same projector and it had a bandwidth roll off... that was the one where I had mentioned you must have something wrong in your setup, because that pattern does quite well on a stock VDC 9518
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redfox001
Joined: 16 Mar 2009 Posts: 2257 Location: The Netherlands
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Oh and this was my own experience with 300MHz. Going back to standard neckboard some diodes removed I got perhaps 150MHz flat? What Mike delivered did not do 100MHz flat. This is my Vision 1.
| redfox001 wrote: | This was one of the modified neckboard. Taken maart 2015 just after I got them. Little setup just bandwidth check. Two of these same bandwidth and one neckboard was broken. We discussed that.
This was a standard neckboard but also a standard moome. December 2015 a little better setup too
Now the MP mods do something to improve the picture noisewise but bandwidth wise??? |
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mp20748
Joined: 12 Sep 2006 Posts: 5689 Location: Maryland
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| redfox001 wrote: | | High bandwidth after modifications? 300MHz? Below you see three guys with modded video chain and how the standard boards outperform some boards on bandwidth. |
Dang. I should have posted that I am the ONLY person with the 300mhz neck boards. But instead you somehow thought all of my neck boards were 300mhz capable.
And then you go further on your multi-weekly attack Mike's Mods on Curt Palme.com to pull up three pictures on smpte test patterns. One of them you say is Wolfman's... do you know that Wolfman and I have plans to UPGRADE his boards, or better still he wants to purchase an separate and new set of my modified boards?
Oh, we spoke already last month. I'm thinking to send Curt the emails so that he can clearly see that you are slandering me once more on an open forum with lies.
Oh and on one of the other shots. That was posted for the sole purpose of seeing if you would use it against me. And you took the bait. I have the email on that one as well.
And to say my neck boards won't fully resolve 1080P and that a stock neck board better resolves 1080P is so ridiculous it's comical. Do you have any idea how many times that has been proven already?
Or should I post once more the PRAISE report you posted in a thread....I saved the link. It was right before you reverse engineered the modified neck boards you got from me and claimed to have made them better.
So you went from being Extremely happy with the mods to after your failed attempt to make them better, to being on a bi-weekly rant about how bad my mods are and LYING about what they can't do
Question: why is it you are the ONLY one that has complained about the mods actual performance?
And since you got a better smpte with stock boards, why don't you post some screenshots showing how much better they image
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redfox001
Joined: 16 Mar 2009 Posts: 2257 Location: The Netherlands
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I am entitled to criticise your work and I do it with facts. If you can not respond to them that is not my problem. It should warn people that is all. It is my opinion that this scam has been going on for 20 years now with an omerta like cultus where people dare not speak out of fear that they will be outcast of the Mike mods cirquit.
I have experienced the pressure to keep silent myself and it was not pleasant to say the least.
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mp20748
Joined: 12 Sep 2006 Posts: 5689 Location: Maryland
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| redfox001 wrote: | I am entitled to criticise your work and I do it with facts. If you can not respond to them that is not my problem. It should warn people that is all. It is my opinion that this scam has been going on for 20 years now with an omerta like cultus where people dare not speak out of fear that they will be outcast of the Mike mods cirquit.
I have experienced the pressure to keep silent myself and it was not pleasant to say the least. |
LOL... here is the FACTS. The mods over the years has ONLY had some reliabilty issues. This is well known, and why I've stopped modifying boards over and over. And that is why Wolfman is buying NEW set from me because I've stopped re-working the boards and refuse to do so.
Now, please find me ONE person other than yourself going back whenever that can honestly say that were not pleased or did not get better results over the stock boards. Or even better, better results than any other mods.
There have never been performance issue period.... even you PRAISED them..remember, or should I post the link..
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redfox001
Joined: 16 Mar 2009 Posts: 2257 Location: The Netherlands
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Now there is some answer. You say that reworking the boards might not work out good. I came to that same conclusion that is why I did not touch the video path. I also found that some boards simple where better.
Of cause critisism is not something you are used to but it makes things clear.
One thing I might think from all this is that the first time customers get the bad boards and when they upgrade they get the better boards but that is just a very nasty suspicion. You could easily deny it by showing some first time customers that showed excellent smpte pictures in public.
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mp20748
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| redfox001 wrote: | Now there is some answer. You say that reworking the boards might not work out good. I came to that same conclusion that is why I did not touch the video path. I also found that some boards simple where better.
Of cause critisism is not something you are used to but it makes things clear.
One thing I might think from all this is that the first time customers get the bad boards and when they upgrade they get the better boards but that is just a very nasty suspicion. You could easily deny it by showing some first time customers that showed excellent smpte pictures in public. |
You know I could really respond to this and clear it all up, but with your track record, you'll post the exact same thing in the next couple of days on your next attack Mike strategy here on Curt's forum.
But instead, I'll just share with you what a bunch has done, because they have gotten really tired of not being able to talk about the mods or ask questions about them here, without you twisting the thread in another direction with your personal bash Mike agenda... so they put together a Marquee Mods Forum. Where they say I should have the freedom to post without constantly being attacked by someone who damaged their own boards and blame me for it.
I kinda get the feeling that you'll not be able to carry out your agenda on that mini forum. Heck, they may not even allow your presence. But I do know they want others there that have interest in the Marquee.
I tell you one thing you can do and that is post screenshots in the screenshots thread here, that way we can see the great results you're getting with your stock smpte capable neck boards in comparison to the not up to par (your truth) work I'm doing.
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redfox001
Joined: 16 Mar 2009 Posts: 2257 Location: The Netherlands
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I just posted screenshots.
Hmm I have a feeling what that bunch with the name strid has done because they got banned on Curt on Repair and on AVS they had to open their own board and that is really funny
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mp20748
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| redfox001 wrote: | I just posted screenshots.
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Where??
Don't you think since you're speaking on truth an facts, that you should instead of using unverifiable test patterns, that you should just post your shots that can so easily show as a better means that your stock neck boards are better than my mods.
I have a feeling you ain't gonna do that..lol
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redfox001
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| redfox001 wrote: | Oh and this was my own experience with 300MHz. Going back to standard neckboard some diodes removed I got perhaps 150MHz flat? What Mike delivered did not do 100MHz flat. This is my Vision 1.
| redfox001 wrote: | This was one of the modified neckboard. Taken maart 2015 just after I got them. Little setup just bandwidth check. Two of these same bandwidth and one neckboard was broken. We discussed that.
This was a standard neckboard but also a standard moome. December 2015 a little better setup too
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