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Electrohome Marquee 8500 convergence drift
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Martin86



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Posted: Wed Dec 23, 2015 7:19 pm    Post subject:

Ok the Board with the Problem Part Numbers ends with 02p ... The Other Board from the 9000 ends with 03p , Butt this Boards make no Image i Can power up , i have high voltage ... The red and Green led on the DPB Flashs crasy Very Happy... Butt i have no Image on the Tube

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Posted: Wed Dec 23, 2015 7:48 pm    Post subject:

00-260336-03P is the newer style CLM.

The flashing is the reading and writing of the control chips and data.

Ok try to re seat the HDM. this is most common problem of No HV.

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Posted: Wed Dec 23, 2015 8:00 pm    Post subject:

I have high voltage! I hear it crackle! it burns no red Error LED. but with the 03p takes no image
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Posted: Wed Dec 23, 2015 8:15 pm    Post subject:

Martin86 wrote:
I have high voltage! I hear it crackle! it burns no red Error LED. but with the 03p takes no image



What got it going?

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Martin86



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Posted: Wed Dec 23, 2015 8:22 pm    Post subject:

I have no idea ! With the 02p i have no pic or utiliti Menue . No contrast and no brightness adjustment ... With the 03p i have no picture ... Booth Board have no red error ligts !
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Posted: Wed Dec 23, 2015 8:33 pm    Post subject:

Martin86 wrote:
I have no idea ! With the 02p i have no pic or utiliti Menue . No contrast and no brightness adjustment ... With the 03p i have no picture ... Booth Board have no red error ligts !


Wait...... Did you swap out the clm's? Or did you change the DPB on the CLM's?

And is this for the 9000?


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Posted: Wed Dec 23, 2015 9:12 pm    Post subject:

I have the clm from the 9000 03p plugged into the 8500 ... but unfortunately no picture the DPB stigmator and have the same numbers as in the 8500 clm


Or is the 9000 clm not kompatibel to the 8500?

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Posted: Wed Dec 23, 2015 9:25 pm    Post subject:

I would need the entire number off Both CLM's .

Some times they work depending on the software version on Chip U35 and U16 .


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Posted: Wed Dec 23, 2015 9:31 pm    Post subject:

Ok I'm on work and the number may tomorrow post! Merry Christmas and thank you for your help




could be the chips U35 and U16 use of the broken clm? and insert it into the CLM from 9000?

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Posted: Wed Dec 23, 2015 9:40 pm    Post subject:

Martin86 wrote:
Hello
I have the chips pulled out with the lifter and cleaned with alcohol. unfortunately without success ... there are other causes for this error?
when I press Set among service stigmator he writes there are no available stigmator
not sure if you are aware of this or not but the chips only go in one way, did you watch carefully for correct orientation?
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Posted: Wed Dec 23, 2015 9:49 pm    Post subject:

yes i inserted it correctly and clean ... Mr. Green
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Posted: Thu Dec 24, 2015 4:58 pm    Post subject:

From the 9000 ... 50-2036-03p (U12 Rev 22) (U35 68k V3.4) (U16 IOP 2.4)

From the 8599 ... 50-2006-02p (U12 Rev 22) (U35 68k V2.0) (U16 IOP 1.5)

The Chips have difrent Sizes Sad


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Posted: Thu Dec 24, 2015 10:08 pm    Post subject:

Martin86 wrote:
From the 9000 ... 50-2036-03p (U12 Rev 22) (U35 68k V3.4) (U16 IOP 2.4)

Happy holydays
this is the one you want.
U16 is the in-out processor that executes key-pad commands. U35 V3.4 is your primary software, it's from 1996 and has all the geometry features they added after the first generation machines.

Sometimes the key-pad does not work correctly when hard wired to the machine. Have you tried using the remote as wireless infra red?

What the machine really needs is a full re-set, called re-initialization by electrohome.

Nash do you remember how to do this with the remote? I know it involves the arrow keys
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Posted: Thu Dec 24, 2015 10:44 pm    Post subject:

I use a Wireless Remote ( infrared ) and Test it with 3 Other Marquee Wireless remotes

Ok but the 50-2036-03p give me no picture :/ no menue no from Source 1 or 2


What is the re-initialization ?

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Posted: Fri Dec 25, 2015 4:35 am    Post subject:

50-2006-02p (U12 Rev 22) (U35 68k V2.0) (U16 IOP 1.5)


That CLM is from and 8000/9000 marquee.

Looks like your CLM's are in the wrong Projectors.

Nashou

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Posted: Fri Dec 25, 2015 4:37 am    Post subject:

To do an initialization you have to go into the service menu i belive
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Posted: Fri Dec 25, 2015 5:12 pm    Post subject:

hello Nashou

I put back the CLM from 9000 (02p) in 8500, and made a re-initialization ... now all menu points are back! thkanks a lot !



unfortunately the stigmator point still not available .... could the problem persists even in astig board?
there the green convergence was connected. possibly is in this board damage Originated


With the new CLM (03p) I can not make progress because I do not see anything, and blindly through the menu is not good ^^



or it is possible that the 02P clm no astigmator supported?

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Posted: Fri Dec 25, 2015 7:12 pm    Post subject:

If you have a laptop you can try to control the marquee with the software . Curt has a link to the down load
on the info page of the main site.

I also think VDC has a link some where on its web site.

Not as good as a remote but ti might help.

I think there might be an option some where in service menu to shut off menus on display. Not 100% sure.
But using the PC might help you find it.

Nashou

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Posted: Fri Dec 25, 2015 7:26 pm    Post subject:

http://www.curtpalme.com/docs/Marquee_ControlProgram.zip
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Posted: Fri Dec 25, 2015 9:13 pm    Post subject:

Martin86 wrote:
unfortunately the stigmator point still not available .... could the problem persists even in astig board?
there the green convergence was connected. possibly is in this board damage Originated


if it says" Stigmamtor board not found" then it's likely a software issue or the small Stig board on the control module is bad.

If you can go into the Stig menu, but the circles on the stig adjustment service menu don't change shape when you use the arrow keys, then the amplifier on the rear heat sink is blown.
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