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draganm
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| gjaky wrote: | | Only the very early Marquee 9000 had the Thomson tubes, at 1995 they used P19LCPs already, there is a very good chance that even the video boards equipped with HFA1100 opamps already so they are not that bad after all, although newer boards used in the 8500 indeed better.. |
maybe but unlikely, those little Blue add-on Caps are almost always the boards with really bad CL409 op amps.
| gjaky wrote: | | Dragan, the blue gamma isn't big deal,.. |
no comment
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Martin86
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On the Web i found Some pictures how User add Fans on the Focus and hdm Board ...
Its no Glykol on the chassi ! I think the seller has found a small leak and put the Glykol out ! Tomorow i make more better pictures
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Nashou66
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gjaky
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| Posted: Mon Dec 21, 2015 6:34 am Post subject: |
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| draganm wrote: | | gjaky wrote: | | Only the very early Marquee 9000 had the Thomson tubes, at 1995 they used P19LCPs already, there is a very good chance that even the video boards equipped with HFA1100 opamps already so they are not that bad after all, although newer boards used in the 8500 indeed better.. |
maybe but unlikely, those little Blue add-on Caps are almost always the boards with really bad CL409 op amps. |
I've just got Curt's last VIMs that he was throwing out, half of them has HFA1100, the one I bought from Barclay also have HFA, in fact I've seen more 9000 VIMs with HFA1100 than with CLC409. Also a friend of mine had/has late 94 M9000 that also had HFAs all over. FYI.
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Martin86
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okay the marquee 9000 have a HDM: 50-2003-07P 16.96
and the marquee 8500 have a HDM: 50-2003-04P 50.94
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Nashou66
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| gjaky wrote: | | draganm wrote: | | gjaky wrote: | | Only the very early Marquee 9000 had the Thomson tubes, at 1995 they used P19LCPs already, there is a very good chance that even the video boards equipped with HFA1100 opamps already so they are not that bad after all, although newer boards used in the 8500 indeed better.. |
maybe but unlikely, those little Blue add-on Caps are almost always the boards with really bad CL409 op amps. |
I've just got Curt's last VIMs that he was throwing out, half of them has HFA1100, the one I bought from Barclay also have HFA, in fact I've seen more 9000 VIMs with HFA1100 than with CLC409. Also a friend of mine had/has late 94 M9000 that also had HFAs all over. FYI. |
I think he is talking about the neck Boards. I have seen some with CLC 409's.
Nashou
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Martin86
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so today i install a new cr2430 batterie ... and make some pictures
the hdm have difrent layouts ...
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gjaky
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As you already discovered the M9000 already have the newer HDM and it seems it has the new style CVA+VDM boards too, those are nice. This rises the question actually what else was replaced in that machine?
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Martin86
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| Nashou66 wrote: | This is the old style HDM, which machine is this one in?
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Its the hdm from the 8500
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Martin86
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Hello
* when I press comes Marquee 8500 .... well not so bad for both've paid 250 euro ... and I'm only 100 miles driven ...
cannibalized  Word of the day ... A friend said it would be a hillbilly tuned 8500 with downgrades improvement parts 
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Martin86
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yes I see so well! there is what to consider when rebuilding from the old to new HDM?
that HDM from de M 9000 also works with the 8 "from the M8500?
so I can the 8500 first one week test without my old hdm breaks or over heat
Also I must first save before I can buy the new bellows ^^ or my wife kills me
I put it on the celling ... And make two adaptors Thats the Marquee fits on my Barco "Rails"
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Martin86
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new problem! nothing happens more when I / color / tint / detail / cont / bright / vol / Pic or Geom press ... when I'm on one of the keystrokes convergenc and disappear the menu thus responding maruqee the button but it appears no menu ... which is board for the menu be competent?
When i Presse * the Marquee Info Page Comes
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draganm
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| Nashou66 wrote: | Drags, look at all his pics, one Marquee is Black case I think( 8500 ?) and the other is a grey case ( 9000 ?) So look at both Stig amp boards. He said they are the same boards . Or at least I think he did ( language barrier)
Athanasios |
ok, didn't know if you were aware he had 2 machines. Funny, the 9000 has 8500 parts and the 8500 has 8000/9000 parts
| Martin86 wrote: | new problem! nothing happens more when I / color / tint / detail / cont / bright / vol / Pic or Geom press ... when I'm on one of the keystrokes convergenc and disappear the menu thus responding maruqee the button but it appears no menu ... which is board for the menu be competent?
When i Presse * the Marquee Info Page Comes |
color , tint, detail only work on composite video.
More than likely a control board problem. The one with the battery. Do you have an IEC Chip puller? The chips and duaghter-boards need ot be pulled and de-oxidized with a proper electronic cleaner.
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Martin86
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Hello
I have the chips pulled out with the lifter and cleaned with alcohol. unfortunately without success ... there are other causes for this error?
when I press Set among service stigmator he writes there are no available stigmator
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Nashou66
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| Martin86 wrote: | Hello
I have the chips pulled out with the lifter and cleaned with alcohol. unfortunately without success ... there are other causes for this error?
when I press Set among service stigmator he writes there are no available stigmator |
You might not have the Stig waveform board on the CLM. There should be two board on the CLM, the DPB and the SWB.
If that board is not there then the Sig menu will not be accessible .
Nashou
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Martin86
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on my clm Board a two smal Boards instalet ... Stigmator and ....
I think the clm is dead 
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