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Luuk neele



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Posted: Tue Mar 24, 2015 10:42 pm    Post subject:

got it, i adjusted the g2s, if i look into the tubes, the blue tube seems out of focus. regardless how much i turn the lens.
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Nashou66



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Posted: Tue Mar 24, 2015 11:09 pm    Post subject:

Luuk neele wrote:
got it, i adjusted the g2s, if i look into the tubes, the blue tube seems out of focus. regardless how much i turn the lens.


One of the things with CRT is many purposefully defocus blue to get a better white balance and greyscale.
It might be like that from the previous setup.

Not sure if the ampro has a de focus blue switch like some other PJ's do.

nashou

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Posted: Tue Mar 24, 2015 11:16 pm    Post subject:

That could be it.
So far it's good.



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mac



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Posted: Wed Mar 25, 2015 1:02 am    Post subject:

Don't worry about the blue focus. That is electronic focus.

So you did the G2's with the tubes turned off, right? Then you turned them back on and this is where you are now, right?
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Luuk neele



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Posted: Wed Mar 25, 2015 1:05 am    Post subject:

sh*t, tubes needed to be off? I tried that and turned the knob and not much happened. Did I do something wrong? I can try again tomorrow?
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mac



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Posted: Wed Mar 25, 2015 1:11 am    Post subject:

Yes, the first try is with the tubes turned off. Now this also depends on how good emission the tubes are. Turn the G2 up until you see the raster. If you turn up the G2 and you do not get a raster then leave it up full for now but let me know.
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Luuk neele



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Posted: Wed Mar 25, 2015 1:26 am    Post subject:

Must be my scaredy cat behavior, because I tried it now and it worked. G2 values are set. I had to turn the knob only a little to show a raster. Actually it shows a scanline raster.
I backed it down to where it's barely visible.
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mac



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Posted: Wed Mar 25, 2015 1:48 am    Post subject:

Ok, now turn all tubes back on, no input and no test grid, just blank. Master brightness still at 50.
Press "95" "code" and remote should read sub bright.
Press "RED" button for red tube adjustment.
Look into red lens and with the up and down arrows, adjust up until you see raster then down until it just disappears.
Then press "GREEN" button and look into tube and adjust green raster.
The blue to set blue raster.

When done select master brightness on remote and when you use the up or down arrow you should see all 3 tubes come on and go off at the same time when looking into the lenses from a slight distance so you can see in all 3 at the same time.

See how this goes.
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Luuk neele



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Posted: Wed Mar 25, 2015 2:10 am    Post subject:

Sub brightness does not do what you suggest. In fact it doesn't do anything.
Picture out of tube looks good though
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mac



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Posted: Wed Mar 25, 2015 2:23 am    Post subject:

Turn master brightness up to 70 and then try sub brightness again.
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Luuk neele



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Posted: Wed Mar 25, 2015 11:08 am    Post subject:

i'll try that, also he grid is not "stable" along the vertical lines it's shaky, what could be that?
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Posted: Wed Mar 25, 2015 2:35 pm    Post subject:

You can try "2" "test" and see if that grid is more stable.
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Posted: Wed Mar 25, 2015 2:36 pm    Post subject:

is it because of the low khz that test 1 uses? (15k)
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Luuk neele



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Posted: Thu Mar 26, 2015 1:22 am    Post subject:

Heya guys, I moved the pj downstairs for tryout and calibration.
I quick-converged it and ran thru the help setup.
System seems to be working fine.
I had to get the hang of it so it took me three hours for a preliminary setup.
Things would have been much easier if I had that tool that should come with it!
The scheimpflug is a pita to do now.
Do any of you guys have such a tool for sale or something? As regular Allen drivers are too short.
I'll hook it up to a source tomorrow and try it out.

Mac, so many thanks for getting me this far! You're the best!
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Nashou66



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Posted: Thu Mar 26, 2015 1:49 am    Post subject:

Now get some HD signals to that beast!

You need a moome HDMI to RGB converter.

I think there is one for sale here in the for sale section.

nashou

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Luuk neele



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Posted: Thu Mar 26, 2015 1:51 am    Post subject:

Too expensive right now, first try a htpc via vga to rgbhv
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mac



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Posted: Thu Mar 26, 2015 2:26 am    Post subject:

I have allen size in 3/8 drive with extension and ratchet that I use.
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Luuk neele



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Posted: Thu Mar 26, 2015 10:28 am    Post subject:

gonna try a ratchet to fine tune it, i already got it quite sharp, i thought it would look bad until i came to the electronic focus part of the setup. it quickly became almost razor sharp.
its just all in the focus now, the rest seems fine, i'll take off the lenses probably this weekend to check for air bubble in glycol.
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Luuk neele



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Posted: Fri Mar 27, 2015 1:58 am    Post subject:

It's in focus when I do setup.
As I finish and switch back to rgbhv input, the image is crap.
Blurry, low res. No matter how high I set the resolution on my pc.
Also the top is crooked, as is the top left, and the left side of the screen has double lines on the tube at 60khz or more.
When I look into the lense I see jittery lines on the raster,
What's up with that? I set everything back to default and I'm gonna try again
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mac



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Posted: Fri Mar 27, 2015 2:01 am    Post subject:

Make sure you have the source at the resolution you will use and then use "4" "test" for the pattern to adjust. Also have the 55 code set properly when adjusting. I dont remember off the top of my head, just that it can be an issue. If you still have problems I will look at the manual and assist.
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