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dentree
Joined: 01 May 2009 Posts: 247 Location: Melbourne Australia
TV/Projector: BARCO GRAPHICS 808 BARCO GRAPHICS 801
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| Posted: Mon Jan 12, 2015 7:14 am Post subject: |
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km987654
I actually like your line of thinking, although I have put everything back in their respective machines, i might just try it again, I may have misinterpreted what I was looking at (although I don't think so) but the idea has merit to give it another test, I am finding it difficult to keep up with the flow of ideas and suggestions (mainly my limited knowledge) it takes time to absorb and actually understand what is being suggested, and why, when I get that under my belt I feel much more comfortable tackling the ideas at hand, but it is a great learning curve !!
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Trevor
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CasetheCorvetteman
Joined: 09 Nov 2008 Posts: 6326 Location: Australia
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| Posted: Mon Jan 12, 2015 7:16 am Post subject: |
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I would say the 808 yokes will be shorter, allowing the active part to fit further up the neck where it is meant to be.
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CasetheCorvetteman
Joined: 09 Nov 2008 Posts: 6326 Location: Australia
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| Posted: Mon Jan 12, 2015 7:18 am Post subject: |
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Youll be fine Trevor, we wont have you doing anything we wouldnt try on our own machines
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km987654
Joined: 25 Jul 2007 Posts: 2874 Location: Australia
TV/Projector: Barco BG809s
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| Posted: Mon Jan 12, 2015 7:21 am Post subject: |
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| dentree wrote: | km987654
I actually like your line of thinking, although I have put everything back in their respective machines, i might just try it again, I may have misinterpreted what I was looking at (although I don't think so) but the idea has merit to give it another test, I am finding it difficult to keep up with the flow of ideas and suggestions (mainly my limited knowledge) it takes time to absorb and actually understand what is being suggested, and why, when I get that under my belt I feel much more comfortable tackling the ideas at hand, but it is a great learning curve !!
Regards
Trevor |
Hey Trevor
I have been at this for 8 years and still learning stuff it just different stuff to what you are learning. As Case says we won't ask you to do anything we haven't. The important thing is you are prepared to get in there and try.
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dentree
Joined: 01 May 2009 Posts: 247 Location: Melbourne Australia
TV/Projector: BARCO GRAPHICS 808 BARCO GRAPHICS 801
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| Posted: Mon Jan 12, 2015 7:43 am Post subject: Barco Cine 8 |
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The actual physical length of both the deflection and focus yokes are exactly the same
ie: the deflection yoke is 95mm from front to back
the focus yoke is 70mm from front to back
Trevor
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CasetheCorvetteman
Joined: 09 Nov 2008 Posts: 6326 Location: Australia
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| Posted: Mon Jan 12, 2015 8:08 am Post subject: |
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That is interesting... Thats including the fastening clamps?
So how do tube lengths compare between the P16LNPs and the 180DMB22s?
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dentree
Joined: 01 May 2009 Posts: 247 Location: Melbourne Australia
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| Posted: Mon Jan 12, 2015 9:17 am Post subject: |
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No Case, thats just the main body of the units
The defection yoke from front flange to the end of the rear clamp is 105mm
and the measurement of the focus yoke is 90mm from front locking ring to the end of the rear clamp
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dentree
Joined: 01 May 2009 Posts: 247 Location: Melbourne Australia
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| Posted: Mon Jan 12, 2015 9:22 am Post subject: |
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The Barco guns in the 808 from mounting bolt plate to the ceramic pin base ie 405mm
the CINE measured as above is 395mm
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CasetheCorvetteman
Joined: 09 Nov 2008 Posts: 6326 Location: Australia
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| Posted: Mon Jan 12, 2015 10:45 am Post subject: |
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So the necks are 20mm shorter? That would account for it...
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CasetheCorvetteman
Joined: 09 Nov 2008 Posts: 6326 Location: Australia
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| Posted: Mon Jan 12, 2015 10:47 am Post subject: |
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Best to measure neck length, this will give a better idea on whether the tube is too short and the focus yoke is too far back.
Can you post pics of the focus yokes so i can see their design?
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CasetheCorvetteman
Joined: 09 Nov 2008 Posts: 6326 Location: Australia
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| Posted: Mon Jan 12, 2015 10:54 am Post subject: |
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I figure if you can get the focus yokes ~10mm further forward, this issue will be solved. This will likely require a physical mod to the focus yoke housing.
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CasetheCorvetteman
Joined: 09 Nov 2008 Posts: 6326 Location: Australia
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| Posted: Mon Jan 12, 2015 10:56 am Post subject: |
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Im not sure how possible or practical that is, and id be calling on Macgyver before i modded the yokes....
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CasetheCorvetteman
Joined: 09 Nov 2008 Posts: 6326 Location: Australia
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It may be just me, or just the image angle, but looking at my P16LJE here:
The bell angle looks abit different on yours, mine seems to be much more shallow, where as yours looks quite abit deeper, more like a Sony tube or a 180DMB22... I havent seen a P16 that had a deeper looking bell angle like that before...
Its probably nothing...
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dentree
Joined: 01 May 2009 Posts: 247 Location: Melbourne Australia
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| Posted: Mon Jan 12, 2015 11:56 am Post subject: Barco Cine 8 |
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dentree
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dentree
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dentree
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dentree
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CasetheCorvetteman
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| Posted: Mon Jan 12, 2015 12:38 pm Post subject: |
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Removing that front ring and the flange should get you there, but wait for someone else to give the nod on that
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