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GREG1292



Joined: 10 Oct 2006
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Location: indiana

Posted: Sat Oct 25, 2014 7:53 pm    Post subject: Coming Back to CRT

I am coming back to crt as I no longer can take digital and it's short coming.
I have never had a great 9" machine and have been leaning towards the Marquee
Ultra 9500LC. Budget is 2500.00 or less shipped to Fort Wayne,Indiana or can pick up.

Wish list would be

1. Short throw Len's ?????????
2. Mint tubes
3. MP mods
4. HDMI input
5. ceiling mount

Is this possible I think so just need to be at the right place at the right time. Read alot of FAQ
and now seem comfortable with the Marquee decision. I have been working with Curt as he has
cornered the market but just want to make sure I am getting the most machine for the money
and the features I want.

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Curt Palme
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Posted: Sat Oct 25, 2014 8:03 pm    Post subject:

There`s no such thing as a short throw lens, sorry, and most 9`lenses all have the same throw give or take, 1.35 X the width of the screen roughly. I`ll let the others chime in on the rest. HDMI is mandatory though.
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ElTopo



Joined: 07 Nov 2006
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Posted: Sun Oct 26, 2014 7:32 am    Post subject:

Well the HD-10L lens is for small screen.

You can try the Barco distance calculator in the download section.


ElTopo

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redfox001



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Posted: Sun Oct 26, 2014 10:15 am    Post subject:

Try get one of the 2008 machines from Curt with new red and green. They have very good boards to start with.

Mike Parker said to me that he is still doing the mods. You have to contact him for that.

The Moome hdmi might take some luck to get one. Moome might start a new batch if there is enough interest he said he was working on one. Or else it is possible to rewire a Sony Moome board.

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GREG1292



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Posted: Sun Oct 26, 2014 4:46 pm    Post subject:

So go with the 2008 model Very Happy

What I mean by short throw which lens offer the shortest throw 10L/Gt17 so fourth.

On the mod front with a 2008 model which offer the most bang for the buck?


Thanks will have a few more question but need to go play softball and drink some PBR Mr. Green

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Posted: Sun Oct 26, 2014 5:33 pm    Post subject:

You could send a mail to Curt. He knows those lenses and what is available at what price much better. I have the GT17 on a 100inch diagonal screen.
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Curt Palme
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Posted: Sun Oct 26, 2014 5:41 pm    Post subject:

Unless someone wants to correct me, they are all 1.35 X the width of the screen, give or take a tiny bit. I know of no significantly shorter throw distances than that.
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digitalayon



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Posted: Mon Oct 27, 2014 2:25 pm    Post subject:

Curt Palme wrote:
Unless someone wants to correct me, they are all 1.35 X the width of the screen, give or take a tiny bit. I know of no significantly shorter throw distances than that.


Everyone wants to correct you Curt!!! Mr. Green It's just bad timing for many of us. Razz
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Posted: Mon Oct 27, 2014 3:13 pm    Post subject:

Bahahahaha!
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GREG1292



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Posted: Mon Oct 27, 2014 9:31 pm    Post subject:

Curt Palme wrote:
Bahahahaha!


Thanks Curt will contact you as soon as I sell my VPL-VW200.

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GREG1292



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Posted: Wed Nov 11, 2015 3:21 pm    Post subject:

Ok as you may know by now I was able to get a 9500LC took a little time but we
finally got there. Very nice late model machine that needs a little help but have been
moving in the right direction.

Due to my throw I ended up with a 1080p 72hz 130" diagonal picture with raster's maxed so that is my starting
point. I have purchased MP mod's vim, neck cards,moomee upgrade as well as will be doing the power supply
mods and other boards as well. The projector comes with the latest HD10L and have really good focus so there is no reason
to upgrade these.

What I do need is a hook up on a 9" green and red colored elements.>>>>>> At least a green at fair price.

My observations are a nice machine with a ton of video noise in the signal chain and uprades are needed. Neck boards and vim
are severely lacking as this machine has no usuable video output without blooming. I knew this going in from Mike and the crazy
Brazilian guy.... so my crazy crt projector adventure begins once again as it is good to be back.

Since my screen is so large I am working on a 1 off with Mississippi from AVS. Will be spraying Spandex with a Graco and 1.0
tip as it will take between 7-12 duster coats to make this happen.

Feel free to post on my thread or send some tips my way. So as is projector has a nice image that is very watchable as long as
you don't push it.

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Reddman



Joined: 28 Feb 2007
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Location: South Carolina

Posted: Wed Nov 11, 2015 3:29 pm    Post subject:

I love the image from a crt projector. Granted I haven't seen many digitals as there are no good audio/video places with 100 miles of my location. Hopefully very soon I'll be able to setup a proper home cinema room to really get the most from my 1209s. Welcome back to the darkside
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Posted: Wed Nov 11, 2015 3:33 pm    Post subject:

The mods on the Focus board helped very well with noise and blooming. On the Barco 909 there are coils on the power supply lines and with the Mike Parker suggested coils there on the Marquee the picture becomes much better. Do you know the thread on this focusboard? I will search it later. Found it Smile
https://www.curtpalme.com/forum_archived/viewtopic.php@t=37575.html

I also found that some mods done on the Convergence board significant lowered noise. Mike knows them it was his board I have. Especially the caps made a difference in the noise there to my opinion.

Also the neckboards mods from Mike do a lot and the Vim of cause to the noise.

When I look at my screen these days there is very little noise and very high resolution. I did not change anything in the HV or LVPS yet.

What I also found is that the Barco HFQ900 added a lot to the image compared to the GT17. Better contrast caused by better coating I think. Also better edge focus. However there was some discussion that they might not be the same as the HD10E lenses (from Marquee). I can only say that I am using the HFQ900 and no hair on my head wants to go back Wink

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GREG1292



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Posted: Wed Nov 11, 2015 6:43 pm    Post subject:

https://www.curtpalme.com/forum_archived/viewtopic.php@t=38549.html Here is my Vim and I am aware of the
upgrades you mention. been down the lens path before and my motto is if it is in focus I am good
with that so the newer HD10L have the newer coating and they are sharp. Mike is very helpful as well
as "The mad Danish professor" who's name shall not be spoken. With crt lacking these day's it's a shame
he is not able to be on this forum.

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Posted: Wed Nov 11, 2015 7:35 pm    Post subject:

Ok one tip. Get a set of old neckboards and send some spare boards to Mike. With the old neckboards and maybe an old vim you can enjoy some movies while you are waiting for the mods.
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Posted: Wed Nov 11, 2015 8:05 pm    Post subject:

redfox001 wrote:
Ok one tip. Get a set of old neckboards and send some spare boards to Mike. With the old neckboards and maybe an old vim you can enjoy some movies while you are waiting for the mods.



Already bought the latest neck boards from Mike and he is modding my moomee card and testing in the video chain.
The best thing about this is Kurt s flying in to mod my projector and do a full calibration. Can't wait
to see what this 9500 can do....

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Posted: Sat Dec 05, 2015 6:19 pm    Post subject:

Today is the day we start to install the new MP video chain modifications,green C element,focus adjustments and color calibrations. If
all goes well this should be done Monday. Look out Ohio Kurt is rolling through sometime today.

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Posted: Sun Dec 06, 2015 1:18 pm    Post subject:

First night was interesting to say the least. I knew my image looked good and was watchable in my dark basement but Kurt confirmed my ftl and I guessed 6ftl and was wrong. The new 9500lc came in at a whopping 5.5ftl. Just by installing the new mods it improved greatly and can I say no noise and fully resolve 1080p. Looking forward to today to actually getting the projector setup and calibrated. Screen shots are useless as neither of our cameras can even come close to what we are seeing on screen. More to follow as Kurt has a long day ahead of him.
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Posted: Sun Dec 06, 2015 3:26 pm    Post subject:

5.5 ftL?? 130" is a pretty big screen, but doesn't that look hella dim?
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GREG1292



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Posted: Mon Dec 07, 2015 11:07 pm    Post subject:

garyfritz wrote:
5.5 ftL?? 130" is a pretty big screen, but doesn't that look hella dim?


110" screen and with mods and calibration more than enough ftl now Thumbs Up unmodded new vdc 9500lc is not good at all. We have reached the limitations of the optical path. Any scaling by processors or players has adverse effects. Quite possibly the clearest 9500lc on the Planet. Thanks to Kurt and Mike for making this all possible.

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