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macgyver655
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| Posted: Sat Jul 26, 2014 11:22 pm Post subject: |
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| thewolfman wrote: | | macgyver655 wrote: | | What happens when you crank your contrast up to 100? |
It'll blur, but @ 65 it doesn't. The only one that I know off that runs brightness to 100 would be Mike Parker. Although, he don't use franks anymore as he changed to stock for whatever reason. He does this without Frankenyokes.
I'll refrain myself from further name-dropping, and leave you with the bull**** I just presented to you. |
The last I talked to Mike he was running 909 coils.
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macgyver655
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| Posted: Sat Jul 26, 2014 11:23 pm Post subject: |
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Oh, and brightness at 100 and contrast at 100 is not the same thing.
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stridsvognen
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| Posted: Sat Jul 26, 2014 11:26 pm Post subject: |
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| macgyver655 wrote: | | stridsvognen wrote: | | macgyver655 wrote: | | What happens when you crank your contrast up to 100? |
It lights my screen up to around 14-16fl and keeps sharp.
As i wrote before, its brighter and sharper than my G90 with LUG and sony yokes |
Can you post a 1on/1off pic at full contrast? |
Sure ill do when i get home.
My screenshots are shot with contrast at 85 thats around 10-11fl
I still need you to explain how the yokes are related to the gui software, and the analog out of the hdfury
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macgyver655
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| Posted: Sat Jul 26, 2014 11:28 pm Post subject: |
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| stridsvognen wrote: | | macgyver655 wrote: | | stridsvognen wrote: | | macgyver655 wrote: | | What happens when you crank your contrast up to 100? |
It lights my screen up to around 14-16fl and keeps sharp.
As i wrote before, its brighter and sharper than my G90 with LUG and sony yokes |
Can you post a 1on/1off pic at full contrast? |
Sure ill do when i get home.
My screenshots are shot with contrast at 85 thats around 10-11fl
I still need you to explain how the yokes are related to the gui software, and the analog out of the hdfury |
Is this your 9553?
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thewolfman
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| Posted: Sat Jul 26, 2014 11:36 pm Post subject: |
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Deleted. Off topic.
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stridsvognen
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| Posted: Sat Jul 26, 2014 11:36 pm Post subject: |
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| macgyver655 wrote: | | stridsvognen wrote: | | macgyver655 wrote: | | stridsvognen wrote: | | macgyver655 wrote: | | What happens when you crank your contrast up to 100? |
It lights my screen up to around 14-16fl and keeps sharp.
As i wrote before, its brighter and sharper than my G90 with LUG and sony yokes |
Can you post a 1on/1off pic at full contrast? |
Sure ill do when i get home.
My screenshots are shot with contrast at 85 thats around 10-11fl
I still need you to explain how the yokes are related to the gui software, and the analog out of the hdfury |
Is this your 9553? |
Yes, but thats not relevant to the thread, i posted pics of my testing, and you tell me that its useless as long i dont have frankenyokes, and no bandwidth improvement will help that.
So ill like to know the link betwen the gui software and hdfury analog output, and my standard marquee yokes.
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macgyver655
Joined: 22 Aug 2007
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| Posted: Sat Jul 26, 2014 11:42 pm Post subject: |
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| stridsvognen wrote: | | macgyver655 wrote: | | stridsvognen wrote: | | macgyver655 wrote: | | stridsvognen wrote: | | macgyver655 wrote: | | What happens when you crank your contrast up to 100? |
It lights my screen up to around 14-16fl and keeps sharp.
As i wrote before, its brighter and sharper than my G90 with LUG and sony yokes |
Can you post a 1on/1off pic at full contrast? |
Sure ill do when i get home.
My screenshots are shot with contrast at 85 thats around 10-11fl
I still need you to explain how the yokes are related to the gui software, and the analog out of the hdfury |
Is this your 9553? |
Yes, but thats not relevant to the thread, i posted pics of my testing, and you tell me that its useless as long i dont have frankenyokes, and no bandwidth improvement will help that.
So ill like to know the link betwen the gui software and hdfury analog output, and my standard marquee yokes. |
Not necessarily Kurt. Your 9553 may already have a better focus coil then earlier units. If your 9553 can project 1080p at 100 contrast (or even your 85) and not loose focus then you do not need frankenyolks.
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stridsvognen
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| Posted: Sat Jul 26, 2014 11:51 pm Post subject: |
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| macgyver655 wrote: | | stridsvognen wrote: | | macgyver655 wrote: | | stridsvognen wrote: | | macgyver655 wrote: | | stridsvognen wrote: | | macgyver655 wrote: | | What happens when you crank your contrast up to 100? |
It lights my screen up to around 14-16fl and keeps sharp.
As i wrote before, its brighter and sharper than my G90 with LUG and sony yokes |
Can you post a 1on/1off pic at full contrast? |
Sure ill do when i get home.
My screenshots are shot with contrast at 85 thats around 10-11fl
I still need you to explain how the yokes are related to the gui software, and the analog out of the hdfury |
Is this your 9553? |
Yes, but thats not relevant to the thread, i posted pics of my testing, and you tell me that its useless as long i dont have frankenyokes, and no bandwidth improvement will help that.
So ill like to know the link betwen the gui software and hdfury analog output, and my standard marquee yokes. |
Not necessarily Kurt. Your 9553 may already have a better focus coil then earlier units. If your 9553 can project 1080p at 100 contrast (or even your 85) and not loose focus then you do not need frankenyolks. |
yokes are normal yokes, the green tube is a completer new vdc tube from curt, and the blue tube is moved complete from my vidikron. So only the red is the original magnetics.
My ability to hold sharpness is thanks to MP vim and vnb.
And it has all to do wih bandwidth and low noise level in the video chain.
But as you seems to know more about my setup and what i can and cant do, ill like you to explain what the problem is with my yokes, that wont let me test the hdfury.
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macgyver655
Joined: 22 Aug 2007
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| Posted: Sun Jul 27, 2014 12:05 am Post subject: |
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| stridsvognen wrote: | | macgyver655 wrote: | | stridsvognen wrote: | | macgyver655 wrote: | | stridsvognen wrote: | | macgyver655 wrote: | | stridsvognen wrote: | | macgyver655 wrote: | | What happens when you crank your contrast up to 100? |
It lights my screen up to around 14-16fl and keeps sharp.
As i wrote before, its brighter and sharper than my G90 with LUG and sony yokes |
Can you post a 1on/1off pic at full contrast? |
Sure ill do when i get home.
My screenshots are shot with contrast at 85 thats around 10-11fl
I still need you to explain how the yokes are related to the gui software, and the analog out of the hdfury |
Is this your 9553? |
Yes, but thats not relevant to the thread, i posted pics of my testing, and you tell me that its useless as long i dont have frankenyokes, and no bandwidth improvement will help that.
So ill like to know the link betwen the gui software and hdfury analog output, and my standard marquee yokes. |
Not necessarily Kurt. Your 9553 may already have a better focus coil then earlier units. If your 9553 can project 1080p at 100 contrast (or even your 85) and not loose focus then you do not need frankenyolks. |
yokes are normal yokes, the green tube is a completer new vdc tube from curt, and the blue tube is moved complete from my vidikron. So only the red is the original magnetics.
My ability to hold sharpness is thanks to MP vim and vnb.
And it has all to do wih bandwidth and low noise level in the video chain.
But as you seems to know more about my setup and what i can and cant do, ill like you to explain what the problem is with my yokes, that wont let me test the hdfury. |
Until you post a pic of a focus pattern at full contrast and a 1080p resolution I cannot answer your question. And rest assured, I know way more about CRT technology then you think since I have been repairing and teaching them for over 20 some years.
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stridsvognen
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| Posted: Sun Jul 27, 2014 12:14 am Post subject: |
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| macgyver655 wrote: | | stridsvognen wrote: | | macgyver655 wrote: | | stridsvognen wrote: | | macgyver655 wrote: | | stridsvognen wrote: | | macgyver655 wrote: | | stridsvognen wrote: | | macgyver655 wrote: | | What happens when you crank your contrast up to 100? |
It lights my screen up to around 14-16fl and keeps sharp.
As i wrote before, its brighter and sharper than my G90 with LUG and sony yokes |
Can you post a 1on/1off pic at full contrast? |
Sure ill do when i get home.
My screenshots are shot with contrast at 85 thats around 10-11fl
I still need you to explain how the yokes are related to the gui software, and the analog out of the hdfury |
Is this your 9553? |
Yes, but thats not relevant to the thread, i posted pics of my testing, and you tell me that its useless as long i dont have frankenyokes, and no bandwidth improvement will help that.
So ill like to know the link betwen the gui software and hdfury analog output, and my standard marquee yokes. |
Not necessarily Kurt. Your 9553 may already have a better focus coil then earlier units. If your 9553 can project 1080p at 100 contrast (or even your 85) and not loose focus then you do not need frankenyolks. |
yokes are normal yokes, the green tube is a completer new vdc tube from curt, and the blue tube is moved complete from my vidikron. So only the red is the original magnetics.
My ability to hold sharpness is thanks to MP vim and vnb.
And it has all to do wih bandwidth and low noise level in the video chain.
But as you seems to know more about my setup and what i can and cant do, ill like you to explain what the problem is with my yokes, that wont let me test the hdfury. |
Until you post a pic of a focus pattern at full contrast and a 1080p resolution I cannot answer your question. And rest assured, I know way more about CRT technology then you think since I have been repairing and teaching them for over 20 some years. |
You can start posting pics of 1:1 running 1080p 72hz 178mhz on your crt setup, and show me your ability to do a crt setup and video chain.
And then compare it to the pictures i posted in this thread. And feel free to use whatever tubes and yokes you like.
and you can run contrast at 40 if you need.
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macgyver655
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| Posted: Sun Jul 27, 2014 12:25 am Post subject: |
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| stridsvognen wrote: |
yokes are normal yokes, the green tube is a completer new vdc tube from curt, and the blue tube is moved complete from my vidikron. So only the red is the original magnetics.
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Based on this alone you still do not even know if you have an upgraded focus coil over earlier models.
All this stuff has been discussed time and time again on here. You need to do more reading and research. Mike has discussed all this stuff before and Craig has tested out many of his mods. I talked with Mike all the time via email and phone up until he has not been feeling well lately. Craig gave up trying to explain stuff to you. You have all us techs here trying to explain stuff to you and you just want to seem to argue.
Unfortunately it is summer and I don't spend much time here with other stuff to do. I just had a few hours to kill so I got involved here. Many of us don't even bother posting here any more since it always ends up in bickering. So we stay in touch on other places. So I will have to leave you with what ever you decide. If you do not understand the importance of a focus coil then I cannot help you. Based on your thoughts an ES focus set should be just fine at all resolutions.
Here's a thought. Try just watching movies on it. Bet you cannot go 2 weeks without looking at a test pattern. 
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stridsvognen
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| Posted: Sun Jul 27, 2014 12:35 am Post subject: |
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| macgyver655 wrote: | | stridsvognen wrote: |
yokes are normal yokes, the green tube is a completer new vdc tube from curt, and the blue tube is moved complete from my vidikron. So only the red is the original magnetics.
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Based on this alone you still do not even know if you have an upgraded focus coil over earlier models.
All this stuff has been discussed time and time again on here. You need to do more reading and research. Mike has discussed all this stuff before and Craig has tested out many of his mods. I talked with Mike all the time via email and phone up until he has not been feeling well lately. Craig gave up trying to explain stuff to you. You have all us techs here trying to explain stuff to you and you just want to seem to argue.
Unfortunately it is summer and I don't spend much time here with other stuff to do. I just had a few hours to kill so I got involved here. Many of us don't even bother posting here any more since it always ends up in bickering. So we stay in touch on other places. So I will have to leave you with what ever you decide. If you do not understand the importance of a focus coil then I cannot help you. Based on your thoughts an ES focus set should be just fine at all resolutions.
Here's a thought. Try just watching movies on it. Bet you cannot go 2 weeks without looking at a test pattern. |
You jumped into this thread where im testing the hdfury4 its ability to adjust timings for high bandwidth output for 1080p 72hz
And how it pass croma resolution douing so.
I test it analog and digital out.
You do have time to jump in posting nonsens, and bitching with other members, but when i ask you some serious questions you are busy and think its a waste of time.
Please post your 1080p 72hz 1:1 from your setup, and compare it to mine, running my hdfury4
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Nashou66
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stridsvognen
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| Posted: Sun Jul 27, 2014 12:48 am Post subject: |
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| Nashou66 wrote: | I wonder what the voltages are from the contrast multiplier chip is when you increase contrast at different levels. Just because the Menu says 100 contrast does not mean the voltage level is the same as on a stock marquee Vim at the same contrast value .Or on the VNB for that matter.
Nashou |
Its lower, but still alows a much higher light level on screen with full sharpness.
So all who matters is the fl on screen with acceptable sharpness/ noise level.
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macgyver655
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| Posted: Sun Jul 27, 2014 12:56 am Post subject: |
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| stridsvognen wrote: | | macgyver655 wrote: | | stridsvognen wrote: |
yokes are normal yokes, the green tube is a completer new vdc tube from curt, and the blue tube is moved complete from my vidikron. So only the red is the original magnetics.
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Based on this alone you still do not even know if you have an upgraded focus coil over earlier models.
All this stuff has been discussed time and time again on here. You need to do more reading and research. Mike has discussed all this stuff before and Craig has tested out many of his mods. I talked with Mike all the time via email and phone up until he has not been feeling well lately. Craig gave up trying to explain stuff to you. You have all us techs here trying to explain stuff to you and you just want to seem to argue.
Unfortunately it is summer and I don't spend much time here with other stuff to do. I just had a few hours to kill so I got involved here. Many of us don't even bother posting here any more since it always ends up in bickering. So we stay in touch on other places. So I will have to leave you with what ever you decide. If you do not understand the importance of a focus coil then I cannot help you. Based on your thoughts an ES focus set should be just fine at all resolutions.
Here's a thought. Try just watching movies on it. Bet you cannot go 2 weeks without looking at a test pattern. |
You jumped into this thread where im testing the hdfury4 its ability to adjust timings for high bandwidth output for 1080p 72hz
And how it pass croma resolution douing so.
I test it analog and digital out.
You do have time to jump in posting nonsens, and bitching with other members, but when i ask you some serious questions you are busy and think its a waste of time.
Please post your 1080p 72hz 1:1 from your setup, and compare it to mine, running my hdfury4 |
I jumped into this thread because you are wrong. And I was trying to be polite about it. And probably 10 people have told you you are wrong and your last post to nash shows you have no idea of what you are talking about.
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stridsvognen
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| Posted: Sun Jul 27, 2014 1:07 am Post subject: |
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| macgyver655 wrote: | | stridsvognen wrote: | | macgyver655 wrote: | | stridsvognen wrote: |
yokes are normal yokes, the green tube is a completer new vdc tube from curt, and the blue tube is moved complete from my vidikron. So only the red is the original magnetics.
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Based on this alone you still do not even know if you have an upgraded focus coil over earlier models.
All this stuff has been discussed time and time again on here. You need to do more reading and research. Mike has discussed all this stuff before and Craig has tested out many of his mods. I talked with Mike all the time via email and phone up until he has not been feeling well lately. Craig gave up trying to explain stuff to you. You have all us techs here trying to explain stuff to you and you just want to seem to argue.
Unfortunately it is summer and I don't spend much time here with other stuff to do. I just had a few hours to kill so I got involved here. Many of us don't even bother posting here any more since it always ends up in bickering. So we stay in touch on other places. So I will have to leave you with what ever you decide. If you do not understand the importance of a focus coil then I cannot help you. Based on your thoughts an ES focus set should be just fine at all resolutions.
Here's a thought. Try just watching movies on it. Bet you cannot go 2 weeks without looking at a test pattern. |
You jumped into this thread where im testing the hdfury4 its ability to adjust timings for high bandwidth output for 1080p 72hz
And how it pass croma resolution douing so.
I test it analog and digital out.
You do have time to jump in posting nonsens, and bitching with other members, but when i ask you some serious questions you are busy and think its a waste of time.
Please post your 1080p 72hz 1:1 from your setup, and compare it to mine, running my hdfury4 |
I jumped into this thread because you are wrong. And I was trying to be polite about it. And probably 10 people have told you you are wrong and your last post to nash shows you have no idea of what you are talking about. |
So please show me a picture of your 1:1 1080p 72hz show me what the reference sharpness look like.
Most of what you disagree with me about you need to teach Mike Parker, if yor right he is totaly off track and has cheeted me.
So would be nice if we can warn others if he is just a hustler cheting poor crt owners like me into buying mods.
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macgyver655
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| Posted: Sun Jul 27, 2014 1:17 am Post subject: |
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| stridsvognen wrote: | | macgyver655 wrote: | | stridsvognen wrote: | | macgyver655 wrote: | | stridsvognen wrote: |
yokes are normal yokes, the green tube is a completer new vdc tube from curt, and the blue tube is moved complete from my vidikron. So only the red is the original magnetics.
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Based on this alone you still do not even know if you have an upgraded focus coil over earlier models.
All this stuff has been discussed time and time again on here. You need to do more reading and research. Mike has discussed all this stuff before and Craig has tested out many of his mods. I talked with Mike all the time via email and phone up until he has not been feeling well lately. Craig gave up trying to explain stuff to you. You have all us techs here trying to explain stuff to you and you just want to seem to argue.
Unfortunately it is summer and I don't spend much time here with other stuff to do. I just had a few hours to kill so I got involved here. Many of us don't even bother posting here any more since it always ends up in bickering. So we stay in touch on other places. So I will have to leave you with what ever you decide. If you do not understand the importance of a focus coil then I cannot help you. Based on your thoughts an ES focus set should be just fine at all resolutions.
Here's a thought. Try just watching movies on it. Bet you cannot go 2 weeks without looking at a test pattern. |
You jumped into this thread where im testing the hdfury4 its ability to adjust timings for high bandwidth output for 1080p 72hz
And how it pass croma resolution douing so.
I test it analog and digital out.
You do have time to jump in posting nonsens, and bitching with other members, but when i ask you some serious questions you are busy and think its a waste of time.
Please post your 1080p 72hz 1:1 from your setup, and compare it to mine, running my hdfury4 |
I jumped into this thread because you are wrong. And I was trying to be polite about it. And probably 10 people have told you you are wrong and your last post to nash shows you have no idea of what you are talking about. |
So please show me a picture of your 1:1 1080p 72hz show me what the reference sharpness look like.
Most of what you disagree with me about you need to teach Mike Parker, if yor right he is totaly off track and has cheeted me.
So would be nice if we can warn others if he is just a hustler cheting poor crt owners like me into buying mods. |
I've got 1 better for you. Why don't you contact Mike and ask him how many times he has contacted me for assistance. Words from his mouth would be better then from mine.
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| Posted: Sun Jul 27, 2014 3:44 am Post subject: |
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| stridsvognen wrote: |
Please post your 1080p 72hz 1:1 from your setup, and compare it to mine, running my hdfury4 |
The only valid way to evaluate this would be comparing oscillograms showing rise and fall times...
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| Posted: Sun Jul 27, 2014 6:52 am Post subject: |
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| gjaky wrote: | | stridsvognen wrote: |
Please post your 1080p 72hz 1:1 from your setup, and compare it to mine, running my hdfury4 |
The only valid way to evaluate this would be comparing oscillograms showing rise and fall times... |
Why is on screen performance not valid?
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stridsvognen
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| Posted: Sun Jul 27, 2014 7:01 am Post subject: |
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| macgyver655 wrote: | | stridsvognen wrote: | | macgyver655 wrote: | | stridsvognen wrote: | | macgyver655 wrote: | | stridsvognen wrote: |
yokes are normal yokes, the green tube is a completer new vdc tube from curt, and the blue tube is moved complete from my vidikron. So only the red is the original magnetics.
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Based on this alone you still do not even know if you have an upgraded focus coil over earlier models.
All this stuff has been discussed time and time again on here. You need to do more reading and research. Mike has discussed all this stuff before and Craig has tested out many of his mods. I talked with Mike all the time via email and phone up until he has not been feeling well lately. Craig gave up trying to explain stuff to you. You have all us techs here trying to explain stuff to you and you just want to seem to argue.
Unfortunately it is summer and I don't spend much time here with other stuff to do. I just had a few hours to kill so I got involved here. Many of us don't even bother posting here any more since it always ends up in bickering. So we stay in touch on other places. So I will have to leave you with what ever you decide. If you do not understand the importance of a focus coil then I cannot help you. Based on your thoughts an ES focus set should be just fine at all resolutions.
Here's a thought. Try just watching movies on it. Bet you cannot go 2 weeks without looking at a test pattern. |
You jumped into this thread where im testing the hdfury4 its ability to adjust timings for high bandwidth output for 1080p 72hz
And how it pass croma resolution douing so.
I test it analog and digital out.
You do have time to jump in posting nonsens, and bitching with other members, but when i ask you some serious questions you are busy and think its a waste of time.
Please post your 1080p 72hz 1:1 from your setup, and compare it to mine, running my hdfury4 |
I jumped into this thread because you are wrong. And I was trying to be polite about it. And probably 10 people have told you you are wrong and your last post to nash shows you have no idea of what you are talking about. |
So please show me a picture of your 1:1 1080p 72hz show me what the reference sharpness look like.
Most of what you disagree with me about you need to teach Mike Parker, if yor right he is totaly off track and has cheeted me.
So would be nice if we can warn others if he is just a hustler cheting poor crt owners like me into buying mods. |
I've got 1 better for you. Why don't you contact Mike and ask him how many times he has contacted me for assistance. Words from his mouth would be better then from mine. |
I trust that you know it all better, and tell the truth.
So ill like you the expert to show me some reference sharpness from a crt. So i know how good it can get.
Im also curious to know more about the different yoke editions who can be found in the marquee / wich ones who needs to be changed for frankenyokes and wich ones to keep
So for relevance to the thread topic, please post a 1:1 1080p 72hz shot from your expert reference setup, to compare with my pics.
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