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AnalogRocks
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| ecrabb wrote: | | jeffslife wrote: | | The local video store sells used bd's for 5 bucks each. They clean them in the machine and warranty them for 30 days. Its a pretty good deal. There is a local pawn shop that sells them for 5 bucks also and sometimes as low as three bucks. |
Ditto. I've been watching craigslist, and occasionally people are selling lots of 10, 20, 30 and more, often for under $5 each. Pawn shops seem to be $5 or so for stuff I don't want, and like $8-10 for the stuff I'm interested in.
| AnalogRocks wrote: | | I usually pay up to 32.99 for a brand new release and $17.99-19.99 for the year old stuff. Some as cheap as $7 in the bargain bin |
$33? Man, that's way too much. The only time I'll pay anywhere near that is either for a gift when I don't have the luxury of waiting, or if I have buddies coming over to watch a 3D title - those are typically around $30. Some of the music BD's are in the low-$20's, but the rest of the time, I try to pay around $20 or less.
I buy almost everything on Amazon. That helps with the pricing immensely compared to local store prices (unless there's a big sale).
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Actually the $33 bucks was the last Bluray I bought from Blockbuster. Wanted it NOW! I buy from Amazon too.
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I paid $48 recently for the Girl With the Dragon Tattoo BR trilogy. Well worth it, but the first time I've bought a BR in years.
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the big E
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| ecrabb wrote: | | the big E wrote: | | I hate having to download movies as they are so compressed compared to blu ray they look almost like a mix between DVD and VHS |
What do you mean by "download"? Are you talking about torrenting cams or something?
I've been watching a lot of streaming lately, and it looks far, far superior to DVD. There are some occasional scenes where the compression noise is a bit more noticeable, like very dark scenes, but most of the time it's very good - and noticeably sharper than OTA or satellite, with fine detail and in some movies, and even film grain.
Vudu HDX is slightly better than iTunes/Apple TV. We've watched a handful of Vudu HDX movies now, and I'd say unless you have a very good setup - both audio and video - you probably people won't even be able to tell it isn't Blu-ray - at least 95% of the time, anyway. Watching a lower-end eight-inch or ES-focus machine? Forget it. In that case, I'd go out on a limb and say Vudu HDX is for all practical purposes indistinguishable from Blu-ray.
Do I watch everything that way? Absolutely not. I still watch the really good stuff on Blu-ray, but for documentaries, comedies, special-intrest, etc., I hate to say it but streaming is getting pretty damn decent.
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It's been a while since I last downloaded a movie (luckily i didn't have to pay for it)
I have noticed they have changed for the better lately but still prefer blu ray
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I'm suspecting BD might be in a bit of trouble as a format...
The local Walmarts have drastically scaled back the amount of titles they were carrying during the early Summer. I'm not sure if this is limited to my area or if this is a chain wide mandate but gone are the days of <$10 titles in siginificant quantities.
When DVD was king I used to buy titles frequently but now only for the films I truly enjoy. The biggest concern I have regarding streaming is how to calibrate properly for it; VuduHDX does not look the same to me as a BD. Would be nice if they had DVE on Vudu so you could at least have that as a reference.
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Internet isnt fast enough to stream here.
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| Curt Palme wrote: | | Tinman wrote: |
I'm damn near with Curt these days.... 2 years and 62 hours on the projector. : |
Yeah, but I do have a 909 going on my ceiling today.  |
But are you going to WATCH it???
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| Tinman wrote: | | Curt Palme wrote: | | Tinman wrote: |
I'm damn near with Curt these days.... 2 years and 62 hours on the projector. : |
Yeah, but I do have a 909 going on my ceiling today. |
But are you going to WATCH it??? |
Marc, don't bother him with the details  
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Well it ain't on the ceiling, and I have no time to watch it, no!  But the room will at least be there.
I did get a Studer A810 going today though, without even calling you. 
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| jbmeyer13 wrote: | I'm suspecting BD might be in a bit of trouble as a format...
The local Walmarts have drastically scaled back the amount of titles they were carrying during the early Summer. I'm not sure if this is limited to my area or if this is a chain wide mandate but gone are the days of <$10 titles in siginificant quantities.
When DVD was king I used to buy titles frequently but now only for the films I truly enjoy. The biggest concern I have regarding streaming is how to calibrate properly for it; VuduHDX does not look the same to me as a BD. Would be nice if they had DVE on Vudu so you could at least have that as a reference. |
So what do we get without BD?
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Streaming and purchased downloads.
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| CasetheCorvetteman wrote: | | Streaming and purchased downloads. |
Well thats just great 
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Yeah.... Try it out in the bush on 3G 
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| km987654 wrote: | | jbmeyer13 wrote: | I'm suspecting BD might be in a bit of trouble as a format...
The local Walmarts have drastically scaled back the amount of titles they were carrying during the early Summer. I'm not sure if this is limited to my area or if this is a chain wide mandate but gone are the days of <$10 titles in siginificant quantities.
When DVD was king I used to buy titles frequently but now only for the films I truly enjoy. The biggest concern I have regarding streaming is how to calibrate properly for it; VuduHDX does not look the same to me as a BD. Would be nice if they had DVE on Vudu so you could at least have that as a reference. |
So what do we get without BD? |
That is a good question. As case said, the market is moving towards download and streaming. Still I can't imagine that some sort of physical media would not remain in the market. I will ask my best friend to ask his sister in law what the near future holds for BD.
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| Spanky Ham wrote: | | km987654 wrote: | | jbmeyer13 wrote: | I'm suspecting BD might be in a bit of trouble as a format...
The local Walmarts have drastically scaled back the amount of titles they were carrying during the early Summer. I'm not sure if this is limited to my area or if this is a chain wide mandate but gone are the days of <$10 titles in siginificant quantities.
When DVD was king I used to buy titles frequently but now only for the films I truly enjoy. The biggest concern I have regarding streaming is how to calibrate properly for it; VuduHDX does not look the same to me as a BD. Would be nice if they had DVE on Vudu so you could at least have that as a reference. |
So what do we get without BD? |
That is a good question. As case said, the market is moving towards download and streaming. Still I can't imagine that some sort of physical media would not remain in the market. I will ask my best friend to ask his sister in law what the near future holds for BD. |
Streaming; exactly why Walmart bought Vudu. No more product occupying valuable floor space and no physical media production costs for studios. I prefer a disc but those days would seem to be coming to an end sooner than later. I hope I'm wrong....
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For a retailer like Walmart, it's the floor space and a bunch of SKUs for very time-sensitive items (one day it's hot, the next it's not).
For the content owners, it's more than just lack of physical media costs - it's not free to distribute over the internet, either. The reason the content owners like digital purchase models (like Vudu or Apple) is because the end-user can't loan or resell the product.
It's still true of movies, but the problem is crystal clear is with console games. A new game for a modern game console is $60. A kid can buy a game, play it for a month, then go trade it in at GameStop for $15 toward the next brand new game he just has to have. GameStop then resells his used game for $45 - a 300% markup. Neither Microsoft or the game studio see see a single dollar of any of those transactions... Much to their discontent.
The game studios are trying to recover some of the loss by making a bunch of premium add-ons that are $20 or more - on top of the $60 you pay for the game - but, they're still losing out on a big piece of revenue due to loaning, trading, and resale.
This is why Microsoft announced that there would be no loaning, trading, or used sales of new games on their new Xbox One platform. Overnight though, it became clear that their biggest advocates were turning on them en masse, so they backpedaled and said secondary markets would be allowed.
That's all about games, but it's true of movies, too. I'm just pointing out the mindset of the content owners. They want their money, however they can get it. They don't care if it's on a shiny disc or bits on a server somewhere... The money is green in both cases.
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I love the backlash against Microsoft. Reminds me of the Divix disc players ( not the codec ) Where they said you can buy a movie for $5 and watch it for 24-48 hours. Every time there after you will be charged to watch a disc you already own. Yeah, that worked well
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our Walmarts here also scaled way back on blu-rays...especially the bargain ones.
I am still a sucker for disc format too....at least, for my favourite flicks...I wan the disc.
Not to mention higher bitrate video and lossless sound.
5 to 10 bucks seems to be the going rate on kijiji....I recall buying The Fugitive on Laserdisc for 38 bucks, and that was cost price. I was thrilled with it!! Now I get put off by anything higher than 10 bucks! THat's funny...
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I was involved with the Video industry back in the early to mid 80s and I recall the owner of the video chain saying "why would anyone want to buy movies and own them." He was defending renting but as time passed it was clear that people did want to own their own movies.
That lesson is plain so what are these guys doing people will want their own BDs. How do you own a download or streamed content. I mean clearly you don't and content companies want people to pay over and over for the same thing over time but if people want to own rather than rent then how are downloads only ever going to work?
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