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[CasetheCorvetteman]

[CasetheCorvetteman]

[mx83toy]

HTPC is definatly the route im taking with my XG now... I run my barco Cine7 50 brightness.... contrast with a good greyscale i can push towards 80... the higher i push the better my greyscale setup needs to be else i peak the white out to early and make a mess of things i have taken it further but it gets hard without a meter i have actually had it up higher but took me a while to get right...

[km987654]

[CasetheCorvetteman]

There is no internal MOOME for a Barco, so its external. It was bad enough that i went back to HTPC, which on a top end Barco made a HUGE step up from the MOOME V3 External.

Couldnt agree more on the receiver, but his bluray player might only have one HDMI output, in which case he'd have no choice.

[stridsvognen]

[gjaky]

[km987654]

[CasetheCorvetteman]

[ElTopo]

I had a HTPC in the past, never again ! Too much work.

If you ever seen a Oppo performing you'll know what advantages this device has.

What is so wrong with the external Moome box ?

[CasetheCorvetteman]

The external MOOME is garbage compared to an internal MOOME. This is one perfect reason to look into the Greg Eisemann mods, he has an internal HDMI 1.4 input that bypasses the less than satifactory Barco input path, something im amazed your happy with, unless youve never seen it any other way.

The OPPO is not as capable as a HTPC, and there is not much work when you know what youre doing. Its easy, you should have no trouble.

[stridsvognen]

[ElTopo]

Please give us some reasons why the external Moome is garbage ?

Have you ever had an Oppo or a Lumagen ?

I decided to go away from a HTPC of many reasons (setup, noise, reliability).

[CasetheCorvetteman]

Reliability? Get real!! Hahaha!!! Thats a real joke.

Noise? Thats another joke, if you know what parts to use youll never hear it.

Setup is not hard at all, and capability goes far beyond movies.

I tried the external MOOME V3 against the internal MOOME in my XG, and the internal was noticably sharper.

The Barco RGB inputs are bad enough as they are without adding the external MOOME.

[stridsvognen]

[CasetheCorvetteman]

Ive spoken about this in other threads. The MOOME V3 External was on a par with the HD Fury 3, no better, tested on both my CineMAX and my XG, the internal MOOME XG card was equal to the RGB input and both were better than both externals on the XG, and the PC RGB was better than both externals on the Barco. Its pretty clear what im saying here is the same as ive said before, the external MOOME is NOT the equal of the internal, and NOT the equal of RGB carried over 5x quad shield RG6 coax.

Im not saying a high end video processor is garbage, im saying a MOOME external box is garbage, it might be fine on a low end 8" or high end 7", but not a high enf 8", and certainly not a top end 9". Im also saying the possibilities when using a computer are very beneficial, as well as considerably cheaper, unless you run out of PCI-E slots you can basically have anything in there you like.

Now spam? Get real, what have i got to sell or gain? Nothing. Im calling it as i see it and as i have tested it. If others want to sit in the clouds then go for it, although it sounds like youve got a much cleaner signal path than Eltopo does. If he ditched the AVR and the MOOME external from his signal path he would probably be suprised at the step up to be had on his Barco.

[fragzero]

So with a barco there is no decent digital solution? You mentioned the Greg eisemann card, have you tried the HDMI 1.4 version?

[kabuby77]

[Hulio]

ElTopo,
Like Case and others have mentioned already, putting your brightness and contrast settings on the same level as another CRT projector means very little, if not nothing.
It depends on too much factors like screen type and size, light-control, resolution, source, cables, the input port, G2, beam spot focus, astig, cut off and gain settings and so on.
Even two identical machines with the same run-hours, performing on the same environment and screen, can end up with different brightness and contrast settings when they are perfect ISF callibrated.
However, since almost no one gave an answer to your request, let me do that if you think the info will be of any use.
I use to own an almost new BG808 with color filtered R&G HD8's. I let it ISF calibrated twice ( first time for upscaled SD-DVD and second time for bluray ). Here the settings:
Year 2007- runtime 435h, Pioneer DV-737 with SDI out-->Cinemateq POPII-SDI (1440x1152 )-->5BNC RGBHV cable--> Port 5 on Barco:
Cut off: R=54 Gain: R=43 Midpoint focus: R=46
B=49 B=36 G=50
B=46
Brightness=45 Contrast=66

Year 2009- runtime 731h, PS3(no games, only bluray @ 1080i )-->HDMI out-->HdFury 1-->Port 3 on Barco:

Cut off: R=49 Gain: R=56 Midpoint focus: R=57
B=37. B=47 G=57
B=69
Brightness=44 Contrast=67
Oh, almost forgot and is important: pitch dark HT room on 205cm wide screen, 1.2 gain ( Beamax ).
Hope it helps.

[CasetheCorvetteman]